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    Big 4 Discussion - November 11, 2018 CS Career Questions


    Big 4 Discussion - November 11, 2018

    Posted: 10 Nov 2018 11:06 PM PST

    Please use this thread to have discussions about the Big 4 and questions related to the Big 4, such as which one offers the best doggy benefits, or how many companies are in the Big 4 really? Posts focusing solely on Big 4 created outside of this thread will probably be removed.

    Abide by the rules, don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted each Sunday and Wednesday at midnight PST. Previous Big 4 Discussion threads can be found here.

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    Daily Chat Thread - November 11, 2018

    Posted: 10 Nov 2018 11:06 PM PST

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    American who took a pay cut to move to Europe: Was it "worth" it?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 01:19 PM PST

    And I don't mean financially worth it. I'm talking more if it was worth it overall -- being in a country where you are no longer earning so much more than the average person.

    I would like to hear from anyone who has done this but tbh I would prefer to hear from the "average" software dev/IT worker or anyone that did go through a size-able pay cut rather than those of you who went to say google Zurich or palantir London (you're probably still making bank).

    Also, I am personally eyeing UK, Holland, Germany and Switzerland.

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    How much time should I invest in my side learning and what technologies should I focus on to be Job Ready once I graduate with my CS degree.

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 07:58 AM PST

    Hello guys, I am currently pursuing a degree in CS and I am gonna start my 3rd year soon (on my semester break rn). I feel like college is just some standard stuff that I need to go through in order to get a degree but I've a feeling that its not enough and really want to be a job ready guy so I want to know how much time I should spent everyday in learning and implementing stuff for the next 2 years everyday, currently I am learning for mostly 2-3 hours only everyday (college stuff aside). And also what technologies that you suggest I should have a strong grip in for the job market? I am "familiar" with programming languages like C#, JavaScript, Python. While I've strong grip in Java. So what else should I focus on ??

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    Would putting my research on GitHub be a bad idea if I want to publish it in the future?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 10:22 AM PST

    Let's see if I can ask this a little more clearly...

    I did a research project on NLP for my senior thesis at my school. It was very cool and I loved doing it, but I didn't quite have enough done by the end of my schooling to try and publish it in a journal.

    So if I put my project out on GitHub, would that disqualify me from ever publishing it for any reason? like because it was made available to the public and other people could use it / work on it? I'm finding it hard to look this stuff up online.

    Thanks for any advice!

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    Fired from a contract job at my dream company after 3 months

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 11:33 AM PST

    I'm a graduate student who took a contract-to-hire position at what I thought was my dream company. Last week I heard from my agency that I was being terminated. No warning, no performance reviews. My boss didn't even talk to me about it. I never heard anything negative about my performance the whole time I was there.

    What are some of the steps I should take next? I have about ~1 year experience in the industry (I switched fields) but I cannot move yet due to my graduate program. Since I was only able to work at this company for three months, would this be a red flag to any future employers? Should I take anything I can get?

    If it helps, I am not located in one of the "hot" tech cities.

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    What can I do during a gap year to continue to improve my cs skills

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 11:03 AM PST

    First some background: After the current semester I'll have associates degrees in math and computer science from my local community College in Central California. I'm planning to take a gap year before transferring because of a surgery I'm having in the first half of next year along with a lease that ends late next year on my current apartment. I currently am employed in an IT position where I do very little programming but am starting to have more free time during due to it being out clients off season.

    During this gap year I don't want to be stagnant. At work I don't really program that much because there is little need for it in my position but I have written two small programs for work. I have recently taught myself python but am lost on what to do next.

    What can I do during this next year to continue to improve CS related skills? I have a current interest in getting into stuff like machine learning, AI and specifically genetic algorithms like what was used to make Mar.io (i believe is what it's called) Mario ai. But all of these current interested seem like they may be too advanced to learn on my own. I am willing to spend money to take online classes or really do anything that'll keep me coding and make me feel productive.

    And as another side question for advise, I am currently planning to apply to Uc Berkeley, sfsu, sjsu, and Fresno state university. Fresno is where I live and is currently my last choice because their cs program seems dated and not ideal from the alumni that I've spoken to. The upside of Fresno is cost as the cost of living would be worse elsewhere and I'd be close to home and able to start school in the fall 2019 as opposed to spring 2020. Is it worth it for me to wait that extra semester to go out of town and closer to the bay (my ideal place to live) where it would likely make me go more in debt with loans as opposed to the local csu?

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    [request] Can I get some stories from those who struggled to break into the industry? How long did it take? What did you do?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 12:43 PM PST

    I feel like the only person who isn't able to break in. My interviews are usually take home projects that take days to do and then a follow up email that basically says thanks but no thanks :/.

    I'm at the point where I feel like I should just give up. Anyone else dealt with this?

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    Affirm vs. Robinhood [New Grad]

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 11:51 AM PST

    Wanted to preface by saying that I've been extremely fortunate to receive two amazing offers - would be happy to share any advice and/or experiences.

    A little about myself - I'm someone who is primarily interested in the product-side of things, and am experienced with the web. I'm a New Grad currently choosing between Web Engineer @ Robinhood, and Software Engineer @ Affirm. I want to join a small, startup-y company, and hopefully stay with them for a decent amount of time - hence, I really do care about product. I'm concerned about Robinhood's product in the sense of how much potential market they have, but then again, I'm not completely familiar with the market. I'm also concerned about the commute - Robinhood is in Menlo Park, and I would like to live in SF with my friends. But on the other hand, Robinhood's engineers seem incredibly smart and the work I would be doing would be super impactful and exciting, as Robinhood Web just recently launched and they have exciting products lined up.

    Robinhood

    [+] Slightly smaller

    [+] More recognizable name, better place to jump start my career?

    [+] Would be working with extremely smart and experienced engineers

    [+] Higher evaluation

    [-] Commute. I would want to live in SF, so would have to commute down to Menlo Park

    [-] Imposter syndrome.

    Affirm

    [+] Vibed really well with their culture; young, hip, and fun people

    [+] Downtown SF, amazing location, sick office

    [+] Less senior engineers, more opportunity to be promoted?

    [-] Not as well known

    [-] Bigger, and less exciting (at least to me)

    [-] Product is a bit more nuanced

    Any advice or thoughts is greatly appreciated! Thank you for your time :)

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    Trouble with Focus/Drive after a year at my first job

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 07:18 PM PST

    Ive been at my current place, a now medium sized startup, for a year now. Just recently I've been feeling as unmotivated and unfocused as I've ever been in my work (career, school or otherwise). Working through some admittedly terrible frontend refactor which should have taken me one week has taken me three. Usually I can maintain focus for most of at least one day out of the week, but a short wile after lunch i begin getting antsy and end up scrolling around loosing my place and getting the urge to walk around or try to talk about nonsense with a coworker. Once the day ends, I'm so exhausted i usually just get home and have zero dive to do anything else by lay around for my 6-9 free time.

    I've been thinking that maybe it was a loss of interest in engineering, and that maybe moving into another part of tech might reignite myself, but after reading some of Cal Newport's stuff in the recent past, I don't believe that will be the magic answer to my problem.

    This has been a large issue for me my entire life. Getting my work done, even if i want to get it done, is borderline painful to focus on, making it incredibly difficult for me to commit to long term goals. I've been on Adderoll in the past, but i believe it was too high a dose and it was a VERY unpleasant experience, nor do i want a drug-crutch to rely on. But at this point, I don't know what to do, I want to work towards my goals, but i feel like I'm missing a fire inside to actually make the move and get s**t done.

    TLDR: Cant focus at work, lost motivation to continue to study for my next job or dedicate myself to my current one. I've been struggling with this my whole life, I feel like I might just be lazy... I want to know if anybody else has gone through this and what they've done to change it.

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    Pursue NLP or CV or both?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 04:47 PM PST

    Hi guys,

    Before I jump to my question, here is some background information I would like to share.

    I am a computer science master's student at a public university in the US (ranked 50ish in computer science) and I joined this year in Fall.

    I wish to have a career in Machine learning, either NLP or CV. I do not have a preference yet but I do have experience working on both using Deep learning in a unicorn startup for 2 years (mostly CV).

    Unfortunately, the school I attend does not have a lot of courses in either NLP or CV (just intro level in both). The rest of the machine learning/data science related courses are undergrad level.

    I was fortunate enough to get an opportunity to work on a good CV related research project and I plan to continue it as this research lab is probably the best my university has to offer.

    My aim is to get an excellent Machine Learning Engineer job in a tier-1, Big-N type company.

    Now coming to my question.

    Should I focus on ONLY one of the two, CV or NLP and try to explore as many aspects of it ?

    OR

    Should I try to gain a breadth of knowledge in all Machine learning related areas, Deep learning, CV, NLP, Data Mining, Statistics etc. ?

    Here are some considerations :

    1. My university doesn't have any detailed courses to offer in either CV or on NLP. So, I am on my own after the intro courses. I am sure there must be a lot of content available online for advanced knowledge.
    2. I am good at programming, both industry-style and leetcode style.
    3. I might not get interview calls from the big ones because I do not come from a top-tier school (Stanford, CMU, Berkeley etc.) so I cannot bank of them for a job. Maybe I will end in a place which does not require so much expertise (which I believe happens with a lot of mid-tier companies).
    4. Doing little bit of both might help me get more calls, but I might not be able to convert them if I am not an expert in either CV or NLP.

    I was hoping I can get some insights from people here. Thanks!

    TLDR :

    Grad school Master's student. Not interested in PhD.

    My aim is to get an excellent Machine Learning Engineer job in a tier-1, Big-N type company.

    Should I focus on ONLY one of the two, CV or NLP and try to explore as many aspects of it ?

    OR

    Should I try to gain a breadth of knowledge across both the areas CV and NLP so that I can get interview calls from more companies ?

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    Career Change Help: Customer Service to Software Engineer

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 12:48 PM PST

    I fumbled through my Sociology degree at a well known University on the west coast. I currently work in customer service and absolutely hate it. My friend who currently works as a software engineer introduced me to coding after he finished a coding bootcamp and has since seen lots of success for the years. While I've considered the bootcamp route, I'd like to explore the possibility of going back to school and pursuing a degree in software engineering. It took me about 6 years just to get my bachelors in Sociology as I took some time off dealing with depression. It's been about 3 years since I graduated with a Major in Sociology and Minor French and feel I may finally be ready to go back. I want nothing to do with my degrees and I admittedly got it because that's what I was expected to do, knowing full well I didn't want to work in either of those fields.

    I've worked through several online resources (codeacademy, coursera etc...), and found that I really enjoy coding, but I don't even know where to start. I graduated with an embarrassingly low GPA (closer to 2.0 than 3.0), and still have $7k in student debt. Is it typically considered more worth it to pursue a Masters degree? That seems like a long shot coming from my background, and I would be plenty happy with a Bachelors, but I honestly feel like I have no chance of getting accepted into a program with my paltry GPA. So I guess my question is, where do I start, and what would my roadmap look like for me to get hired as a software engineer?

    Thanks in advance for any help. It's truly appreciated.

    TLDR: Pursuing BS in Software engineering coming from BA in Sociology with bad GPA and student debt. What do I do?

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    Any of you do leetcode after coming back from work?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 03:32 AM PST

    I'm doing leetcode just to prep myself, be ready in case of an unforeseen event. I'm also learning CSS along with leetcode, so it's around 4 hours of study. But it's burning me out. 8-9 hours of work + 4 hours of study means I'm working 60 hours a week. So any tips on how to make it more interesting? I'm bored to be honest.

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    What are your pros and cons of different areas of the Bay Area? (eg Mountain View vs SF city, Palo Alto, etc)

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 06:44 PM PST

    Also, in terms of the palo alto/mountain view area, is there much of a difference between those two? Fyi, im single and no children.

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    I took a year off after graduating college... what should be my next step to get a job?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 02:45 PM PST

    After graduating, I wasn't sure if CS was what I wanted to do as a career and decided to stay at my current job.

    After more than a year after graduation, I realized I need to move on and get a job in the field that I studied in. What should be my first move to land a new career in computer science?

    I graduated spring 2017 with bachelors in computer programming and information systems focusing on web dev. I live in the Long island, NY area.

    I am planning on creating a website Asap for resumes hoping that will get me back in the mindset.

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    Is there any difference between Software Engineer and Software Architect?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 01:04 PM PST

    I am starting a new job as a software architect soon. I don't have any experience as an architect, although I been working as a software engineer for over 10 years. Is there any difference in the architect role? What should I learn? What do I do? I feel slightly lost to be honest. Btw, I got hired through referral, no interview needed, if you are wondering why a company would hire me if I don't feel ready have any experience in this role.

    Edit: I think people are confusing software design and software architect. Every engineer have to design their code, it's unavoidable, and of course I have done many times before. Software Architect is formal role that companies hire for.

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    What to do when you zone out too much to do your job at work?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 07:12 PM PST

    Does anyone just zone out at work because they're too stressed in their mind? I was up until 3-4am this morning just lying in bed and couldn't get to sleep because my mind was racing with thoughts - just regular to-do list stuff that I kept adding into my notes for the next week to cover.

    I came into work today, haven't yawned too much or felt too tired to function but I catch myself just staring at my screen for a while, reading the same block of code or paragraph and not absorbing it in the slightest. I read a few words and my mind starts wandering off.

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    Are you having your job cloud and distributed computing related skills? How did you go about learning the skills, getting hired and further strengthening your job skills?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 07:08 PM PST

    Career in the cloud and distribute computing seems to be an apt career choice. How did you go about learning the relevant skills, developed skills and pursuing the career to stay relevant and strike a higher salary?

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    Advice for the someone who's on probation

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 07:04 PM PST

    To people who are already set in their current jobs, what advice would you give to someone who's on probation? I am 2 weeks into my first full time job out of college and so far it's been an okay experience with a lot of things to learn. The only thing that irks me is that the fact that I am not able to get feedback on my work frequently. I am afraid if I spend over a week one something and the next day he tells me he was expecting something different or more.

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    Options for a developer who doesn't want to develop anymore?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 06:59 PM PST

    Quick overview of where I'm at:

    • graduated college in 2016

    • worked from 2016-June 2018 as a developer in fintech

    • signed onto a different company in June and am currently working as a developer/technology consultant; I feel discontent because I feel like I'm going to be pigeonholed in this one language that's not used in a lot of other applications.

    I feel pretty burned out on developing, and it's not something I find happiness in anymore. What types of career paths are available for people who have technical backgrounds, but no longer want to program? I've been looking into sales engineering, but I'm worried that leaving my current job so soon will reflect poorly and not give me enough experience.

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    comments on github

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 06:40 PM PST

    since people keep telling me to take my stuff out of zip files, "github should be a portfolio" etc etc etc. i took them out of zip files...

    https://github.com/samuri51?tab=repositories is it "good enough" now?

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    Would i be able to get a software developer job if I emigrate to Canada with just an associates degree?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 06:34 PM PST

    I want to leave my country as soon as possible, and I have the choice between emigrating after 4 years with a bachelors and after 2 years with an associates. Which one would be best for me? Would i be able to find work?

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    Does anybody have any knowledge about Network Engineer compensation? Do they enjoy bonuses/stock similar to SWE's?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 06:19 PM PST

    Supposing a network engineer has ex. CCNP/CCIE certification and works for somewhere like Google Fiber.

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    Why does this industry feel so bimodal?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 02:33 AM PST

    I've always grown up in strangely stratified environments where there was a staggering difference between the upper and lower quartiles of the population, so I could totally be projecting, but it's just something I've been noticing in college.

    The median salary in my area is around 80k for new grad but I don't know anybody making 70-100k. Everyone I've met or heard of going into industry is either making around 60k at some local place, or starting off at double that at big whatever.

    Of the people I know and asked, either they have literally no internships or at least one big N under their belt by their senior year.

    I really haven't met anyone in between. The more I think about it, the more I wonder if this isn't just me being dumb and ignoring the numbers. It's all anecdotal and relatively small sample size.

    If the only options are 60k and 120k, life as a whole really feels like a pass/fail thing.

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    How does “grinding” leetcode work?

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 05:51 PM PST

    When people ask how to prepare for technical interviews, many people say "grind leetcode", but how does this help you get better at problem solving and not just memorization?

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    CS vs. IT- Employability, Mobility, Possibilities, Freedom

    Posted: 11 Nov 2018 10:02 AM PST

    Although my situation is specific I was wondering if you can answer some general questions regarding a CS career. I am fairly new to this world so please be nice. :)

    My Situation:

    I will be attending either a two year computer programming program or a three year computer engineering technology program at what is the equivalent of a community college. Depending on which one I choose it will will involve two or three coops. Based on my research, both programs have very high drop out rates, however, if completed chances of finding decent employment is high in government and local tech companies. It is far from a feeder school for Silicon Valley and without question not as highly regarded as a four year degree but it seems rigorous, allows people to obtain some experience and become employed in the field.

    A Bit About Me

    I am currently employed in a decent job with pension/benefits but it is highly unfullfilling. I'm interested in electronics, computer applications and programming and I'd like to make the switch while I'm still fairly young (mid-20s). However, as someone who already has a degree under their belt in am unrelated field this time I want to make the right decision and take lots of factors into acount.

    My Questions:

    Although I feel more drawn to programming/software development I wonder if IT will allow me to have more mobility (although I am sure there is high competition for coveted entry level positions) and explore different industries (i.e. law firms, schools boards, government, high tech). Will programming/software development be more limiting to software development companies. I don't want to get stuck. Are IT grads more employable? I may very well not know enough about IT but something about programming seems like there are more possibilities now and in the future. Ofcourse, I could be dead wrong and am perhaps idealizing. Also, I won't truly know for sure until I am in one of the careers.

    Thanks in advance and forgive my ignorance.

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