Big 4 Discussion - October 31, 2018 CS Career Questions |
- Big 4 Discussion - October 31, 2018
- Daily Chat Thread - October 31, 2018
- Seattle 'Up or Out' Tech culture finally caught up to me
- What's the worst thing you ever got away with at work?
- Lot of advice on getting your first job. How about your second?
- Capital One TDP Richmond vs McLean?
- Can you ask a company flying you out to SF to book your return ticket a few days after?
- How to get an internship in my situation?
- Would you rather be rejected for job by email or phone call?
- Historic data of women in tech and Why "Women Stopped Coding"?
- I accepted an internship already but got a much better offer, what should I do?
- How to get out of defense?
- Anyone else interning at Bloomberg this summer?
- Are most companies hiring for new grads in the Spring?
- Jump trading on-site
- Replacing a senior engineer: is asking for a raise reasonable?
- How do I get out of coding for a living, what else is out there?
- Current intern with offer elsewhere and salary question regarding new grad position
- Dilemma: Job Hopping Millennial
- Feels like it's so far away (university student)
- Cloudera hiring process (interns) confusion
- Should I minor in economics or biology?
- Future prospects for CS
- My Interesting Internship
- Is it worth trying to get an internship as a freshman with no prior experience?
- Two offers from startups, but I feel like I'll "betray" one of them if I reject/renege
| Big 4 Discussion - October 31, 2018 Posted: 31 Oct 2018 12:06 AM PDT Please use this thread to have discussions about the Big 4 and questions related to the Big 4, such as which one offers the best doggy benefits, or how many companies are in the Big 4 really? Posts focusing solely on Big 4 created outside of this thread will probably be removed. Abide by the rules, don't be a jerk. This thread is posted each Sunday and Wednesday at midnight PST. Previous Big 4 Discussion threads can be found here. [link] [comments]  |
| Daily Chat Thread - October 31, 2018 Posted: 31 Oct 2018 12:07 AM PDT Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk. This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here. [link] [comments]  |
| Seattle 'Up or Out' Tech culture finally caught up to me Posted: 31 Oct 2018 09:10 AM PDT I had heard of the "Up or Out" nomenclature before moving out to Seattle, but I did not really understand what it meant. I figured it was something along the lines of getting pushed out of the tech industry if you didn't stop learning. Which, of course, we read that in tech blogs and community posts all the time. But that is not what "Up or Out" means, and I can now describe it from my experience. From the start of my job, the higher-ups in my company (not big-N) had always mentioned that we need to keep growing collectively to succeed. I was thinking, cool, I will help hire more resources and show them the proprietary ropes. So we kept hiring new grads and mid-levels with little to no Senior hires over the course of the past 2 years. For me, I have been in cruise control pretty much the whole time performance-wise, because I am happy with my pay to the point where I am content with average or no quarterly bonus, so I never chased that carrot-on-a-stick. That was mistake #1 in this tech bubble game. I did not show personal growth. I began to have conversations with my manager about his concern for my "on-par performance" like it was a bad thing about 8 months ago. This is when the "Up or Out" idea started to hit me. Tech bubble companies think that if you are not slowly gaining more responsibilities quarter over quarter and delivering at an increasing rate over time, then you are not a valuable asset. There is no such thing as comfortable. I was delivering all my work for 6 quarters straight, and I was punished for getting comfortable rather than reaching out for 3x the responsibilities for a little more pay. Yesterday, I was told by my manager that because I have stagnated that I should consider moving laterally in the company to a Support Engineer role (have been an SDE for 6 years). Welcome to the tech bubble life. I can't wait until I move away from here. Tech companies in more rural areas care far more about the human behind the computer screen. Have any of you experienced this "Up or Out" culture in other tech bubbles around the world? [link] [comments]  |
| What's the worst thing you ever got away with at work? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 12:29 PM PDT Just curious. Whether it was obnoxiously bad code you wrote for one reason or another, some rule you broke, or some convention you ignored. It's Halloween, let's talk about how evil we've been. [link] [comments]  |
| Lot of advice on getting your first job. How about your second? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 01:17 PM PDT So a bit of background first: I graduated with a STEM degree (not comp-sci) this past May, and I've been working since June as a Software Developer. I like my job so far and I've learned a good amount already, but the area I had to move to and the company I'm in is not where I want to be long-term. I don't mind being here a while to brush up on interview prep materials, but I'd optimally like to be out of here by around April. I'm looking at job listings for new graduates and it seems like until I'm a year out for my graduation date I still apply for many of them. The problem is that I don't feel ready to interview at many of these companies (I still struggle with a couple of leetcode medium questions) and I know the timeline for new graduate recruiting for a lot of the Big4/unicorn startup companies wind down in winter. Is it better to bite the bullet and apply to the new graduate software engineer job listings in November after a week or two more of studying? I was hoping to start applying in January/February as a regular software engineer after studying for a few months but I'm not sure what my chances will be like of even getting noticed by then. Thanks and I appreciate any advice I can get on the issue. [link] [comments]  |
| Capital One TDP Richmond vs McLean? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 05:50 PM PDT First off. Thanks a million to r/cscareerquestions. I've been lurking this thread since before I took my first programming course, and now I've accepted an offer for C1's TDP Internship. The knowledge I've gained from this sub has been priceless. I'm pretty torn between the Richmond and McLean Office for my internship, and am looking to have a few questions answered to help me determine my preference list. Which location is better for the overall internship experience? How does the culture between the two locations compare? Which one of the offices in McLean are TDP interns likely to be placed in? If an intern is offered a full-time TDP position after graduation, is it usually at the location they interned at, or is it pretty flexible? I'd much rather live in McLean/Plano than Richmond. Thanks! [link] [comments]  |
| Can you ask a company flying you out to SF to book your return ticket a few days after? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 01:49 PM PDT Company flying me out for an interview. I have a few bros in SF so I'd like to hang with them. Instead of company setting my return ticket for Sunday, can I ask them to set it for Wednesday. I will cover my own expenses for those extra days, of course. Has anybody done anything like that? [link] [comments]  |
| How to get an internship in my situation? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 07:10 PM PDT So I am 22 years old, just decided to go to school via distance learning. I am currently taking my Gen Ed's at FSCJ and then transferring to FSU also via distance learning. I currently live in New York and was wondering how internships would work in my situation? I having programming knowledge but that is about it so far. Is there such thing as full time internships? Or would summer internships be my only option? [link] [comments]  |
| Would you rather be rejected for job by email or phone call? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 06:36 AM PDT I'm curious on this because when I worked as a recruiter my boss made us call candidates to reject them over the phone because it was more personable. I do think it's fair that people get closure when they make an effort to interview but I've always felt personally and from my experience calling them that email is better to reject. It's not because I was afraid to face them. It was because when I was a candidate and I saw a call I assumed the call would only be good news and I was always excited. This is something all the candidates I rejected over the phone seemed to be like as well. If I'm calling, it must be good news. Instead, I could hear their hearts sink and they awkwardly tried to end the call. When you reject in email, people can digest this news how they'd like. Curious on other's thought, would you rather be rejected for a job via email or phone call? [link] [comments]  |
| Historic data of women in tech and Why "Women Stopped Coding"? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 10:36 AM PDT My earliest exposure to technology and business saw me being surrounded and influenced by women. Women who would scoff and laugh at the silly men who would drop hints at their own gender-derived superiority. I am still surrounded by these women. My boss and my boss' boss are both women in tech as are a lot of the engineers that I work with. These women are math majors, mechanical engineers, software developers, and highly technical project managers. I have been participating in the global online debate around women in tech, mostly to call out what I thought were misguided efforts to make women feel included. I derided those efforts because I knew that a lot of men didn't feel included either and the conversation about women feeling boxed out was because they were in fact being treated equally. In my world there was certainly no shortage of women in tech--I am literally surrounded by them. Then I saw the graph in this article which made my jaw drop. Ever since I have been trying to dig deeper to understand what is going on. https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2014/10/21/357629765/when-women-stopped-coding It clearly shows the number of women enrolling in the sciences and law over the years. There is a clear dip in 1986-87 from which there was a recovery, except for comp sci, and another dip in 2003-04 where comp sci took another dive. Both of those dips occurred across all of the science enrollments. At each dip, enrollment in computer science takes another nose dive while the other sciences recovered. What happened at those times causing the number of women enrolling in Law, Medicine, Comp Sci, and physical sciences to dip and why has computer science not recovered while the others have? I would think law is a "boys club." How come it maintains the steady increase of female majors? Why was the overall increase stronger in the years when we were closer to the genesis of female inclusion when it should have presented even tougher challenges for them? Does this reflect a widespread policy change at higher learning institutions? WTH? [Social justice platitudes and character attacks won't help anyone learn anything. If you take that route I have to assume you benefit from the debate remaining divisive and unproductive and you don't really care if women exist in tech or not.] [link] [comments]  |
| I accepted an internship already but got a much better offer, what should I do? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 09:58 AM PDT Today, I got a call that I am being offered a position for a summer internship at a large, well-known company. I was ecstatic because this was one of my dream companies to work for, but I've already accepted a position at another company. I know that the position I accepted just uses interns to maintain legacy Java middleware (a friend of mine worked in the same role last summer), but the company that called me today would let me work on real projects and use modern frameworks and I would learn a lot working there. To say the new company would be a resume boost is an understatement. I only accepted the position at the first company because I had been turned down by a lot of other places already and I was worried I might enter my senior year with no work experience besides being a retail peon. I already filled out some paperwork from the first company, can I back out? I know this would burn bridges there, but how likely is it that this would come around to bite my ass later? Should I let the company that called know I'm ditching the company I accepted for them if I do this? Edit: Thanks for the advice, I'm definitely going to leave the company I had accepted. And no, there is no signing bonus from either company to worry about. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 31 Oct 2018 09:41 AM PDT I've been working at a defense contractor but I was really interested in moving to downtown chicago and making more money than I do now. My experience is mostly in embedded since I majored in EE. Should I try to leverage my c++, c, and python experience or should I try to learn something new to meet the demands of the area, and if so what? [link] [comments]  |
| Anyone else interning at Bloomberg this summer? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 08:02 AM PDT Just accepted my offer with Bloomberg! I plan on going to Discovery Day on Nov 16th. Who else has accepted Bloomberg for this summer? [link] [comments]  |
| Are most companies hiring for new grads in the Spring? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 02:49 PM PDT I applied to about 100 places for new grad full time upon graduation and I'm struggling to get any interviews. The only times I hear back is when the companies send a hackerrank/coding assessment to everyone. Otherwise, I just keep getting rejected, and honestly, it's taking a toll on my mental health. Looking at my friends get offers whereas I'm probably going to be broke and being attacked by my parents for not having a job while living with them will only makes things worse. Is this true? Can anyone confirm this and let me know if it gets better? Right now, I'm falling into depression for not getting interviews, and everyone who helps me with my resume says it looks good too, so idk what's going on. And I still see a lot of new grad roles open on different company websites, idk if this means that I'm getting constantly rejected or if they won't look at them until the time comes. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 31 Oct 2018 12:47 PM PDT Anybody has experience with Jump trading? How was the on-site structured? I'm gonna the on-site on Friday but they have yet to send me the agenda. :/ [link] [comments]  |
| Replacing a senior engineer: is asking for a raise reasonable? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 03:14 PM PDT Senior engineer left for another role that paid better at another company. They invite me to replace them. I am two levels below senior in our hierarchy. I have been with the company four months and produced well enough to be considered. Is asking for a bump just one level up overplaying my hand? What if they say no? [link] [comments]  |
| How do I get out of coding for a living, what else is out there? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 11:11 AM PDT Hi I will be brief and give context: Experience: Computer Science Degree. 5 years work experience for small in house software developing company (4-5 software developers). We mainly work on maintaining existing software, generating reports, small scale applications. The problem:
Language skills: C#, Delphi, SQL, generic web What I like: I like working with SQL, I also like innovating ideas, but not necessarily implementing them. Not really sure what else besides a Database Administrator type job is out there for me. I don't mind coding a couple hours here and there, but I am not great at it thus would like to avoid it. I think I excel more at coming up with solutions, and delivering nice products. I have thought about completely switching careers as well into something like accounting. But not exactly sure how to transition into it. Thanks for any advice. [link] [comments]  |
| Current intern with offer elsewhere and salary question regarding new grad position Posted: 31 Oct 2018 05:04 PM PDT Currently have been interning at my company since May. It was originally a 3 month summer internship which they extended to December due to my performance. I am paid $25 an hour and received a $2,000 bonus for my 3 month summer term. The offer to extend my internship also meant same pay and bonus potential at the end as well. Also my current internship has the intention and has told me many times that I have the potential to receive a full time offer to continue when I graduate this December. My manager personally told me he would give me a great review to upper management but ultimately not up to him. Their idea of a potential offer is to tell me at the end of my internship in 1 1/2 months.
Received an offer earlier this week as a Software Engineer 1 position in Southern California. The positions is essentially a Full Stack Web developer in the finance industry. Interested to know what you all think of the salary. $65k with a bonus range of 5-20%. According to glass-door most employees receive bonuses on the high end of their range and are pleased with their bonuses. Also 401k percentage and full benefits.
Thanks. [link] [comments]  |
| Dilemma: Job Hopping Millennial Posted: 31 Oct 2018 08:19 PM PDT Upon graduation I've worked as a Marketer in a SME FMCG industry for 2 years. I decided to move on due to little or no career progression. Now I'm in a new job as a Marketer in a FMCG industry but in an MNC. The situation now is.. even though the pay is much more significant than my previous job, the jobscope doesnt seem very helpful for my resume and job hunt in the future. I'm kinda sandwiched inbetween doing a lot of coordination with various internal and external stakeholders, as well as, ad hoc tasks. It also seems like a support role. It's been 2 months and it hasn't been very fulfilling. A lot of soft skills involved and I dont see myself developing technical skillset. Eg. Digital marketing skills. Should I quit? Any advices? Id also prefer to not deal with FMCG / tangible products. I'm wondering if SEO/SEM marketing would be better? Many thanks in advance!!! [link] [comments]  |
| Feels like it's so far away (university student) Posted: 31 Oct 2018 08:10 PM PDT Hi there, I'm seeking advice since I've reached an unbearable point of anxiety (for anyone willing to listen). I'm a rising sophomore at a (supposedly) "top 10 CS school" with a 3.9 GPA and multiple large side projects that are used by other people. I have worked non-stop and dealt with immense amounts of stress. And still, in the process of applying for summer internships, I have received almost 0 initial responses (and many, many instant rejections). I have redone my resume 5 times with positive feedback from Google and Microsoft recruiters and engineers. This is incredibly stressful and honestly it feels like I can't do anything more. It feels like literally no matter what, I am not good enough, and I never will be. I am genuinely passionate about technology and have put every ounce of myself into it, and I am being told that this means nothing. Anyone else feeling like this? I'm about to give up. [link] [comments]  |
| Cloudera hiring process (interns) confusion Posted: 31 Oct 2018 07:56 PM PDT Hi, I'm a bit confused about Cloudera's intern hiring process. So I got an email saying I got moved on from their technical phone screen and that one of the next rounds would be "A potential outreach by a manager". They said they're not done reviewing all candidates yet. Has anyone gotten moved on from technical and *not* gotten reached out from the manager? Is this a host matching type situation? Is the manager round difficult to pass? Just wanted to be informed before I skip out on other deadlines I have potentially. (since Cloudera's intern hiring process timeline is on the late end). [link] [comments]  |
| Should I minor in economics or biology? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 07:51 PM PDT I'm equally interested in both maybe a bit more so in biology, so the biggest concern would probably be job options/salaries when paired with a CS degree. Right now I'm a senior in HS, living in a high CoL area that I might stay in for awhile (NYC). Thanks for the advice! [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 31 Oct 2018 07:45 PM PDT Hey guys! I also posted this in r/jobs, but want more input. I'm currently an engineering student at a community college, and I'm considering a bachelor's degree in Computer science with a concentration in software engineering. I have been doing some research on the career prospects, and it seems it may not be a friendly career for people when they get older. How true is this? Does software engineering have a good outlook down the road as one ages? [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 31 Oct 2018 07:43 PM PDT So basically I am a second year CS student who recently landed an internship close to DC. Well I am not an "official" intern who comes and works there I have just been coming in to get lectured by the Engineering Team Lead (the person who took me to the company because we kinda know each other, no one else knows me in the company because I don't officially work there, I just go there to learn from him) and I am learning things like Ruby on Rails and deploying Circle CI servers on AWS. My worry is that I literally go there once a week to learn from him and even though its a "paid" internship I have to work a lot to catch up to the company to get paid for work. And since I don't see myself working for them in the near future because Its kind of a startup and I don't want to bug my manager and take up his time. I was thinking is this even useful for my future? Can I even put this in my resume? He said I should put it in my resume and put his number for manager contact info. He gives me weekly assignments for me to learn, but it's not company work. I mean I know learning things like Rails and Aws will help me get more knowledge in the field, but will this internship really be beneficial for getting hired by future employers. Sorry for the messy post, Thank you! [link] [comments]  |
| Is it worth trying to get an internship as a freshman with no prior experience? Posted: 31 Oct 2018 12:10 PM PDT As the title says, I'm a current freshman majoring in CS. However, I never coded in high school whatsoever so I pretty much just started coding in college. Should I even try to apply for internships? Of course, I'd have no chance at places like google, Facebook, etc but is it worth applying to local companies? [link] [comments]  |
| Two offers from startups, but I feel like I'll "betray" one of them if I reject/renege Posted: 31 Oct 2018 07:38 PM PDT I've never been fortunate enough to receive two offers at the same time, and I just got my second internship offer for the summer. Both companies are startups, but company X pays 2x what company Y pays. However, Y is solving "harder" problems. X is a more mid-range startup (~40 employees), while Y is much smaller (~7-10 employees): I think this is important because I feel X is closer to an exit (acquisition most likely) than Y, and acquisitions have massive payouts to early employees. I feel like I have a personal connection with both companies. The people I've talked to are really great, and it feels like I'm "betraying" one of the companies by declining their offer. I know corporations wouldn't give one shit about me if they had to go with a different candidate, but I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around this. Any thoughts on how to feel less guilt? I'm still interviewing with big G, so if I get an offer from them, I'd reject both X and Y fwiw. I'll probably have to renege because both startup offer deadlines are next week and I just had my G interviews this week lol, and it looks like they take 1-2 months at the very least. Google isn't guaranteed (statistically improbably, in fact), so I'm definitely accepting one of X or Y for now, which makes me feel worse lol. [link] [comments]  |
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