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    Interview Discussion - July 16, 2018 CS Career Questions


    Interview Discussion - July 16, 2018

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 12:09 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to have discussions about interviews, interviewing, and interview prep. Posts focusing solely on interviews created outside of this thread will probably be removed.

    Abide by the rules, don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted each Monday and Thursday at midnight PST. Previous Interview Discussion threads can be found here.

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    Daily Chat Thread - July 16, 2018

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 12:09 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    Has anyone been ever asked to turn over ALL personal electronic devices to ensure no intellectual property theft when leaving a job?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 07:05 PM PDT

    Long story short, company Foo i work for is in the final stages of an acquisition by Company Bar. I am not continuing on with working for Company Bar, since i don't want to relocate to keep my job. My current position has pretty much revolved around our Cloud infrastructure (*-ops), and as a backend dev for some of our legacy services.

    Today is my final week of work, and i was pulled into a meeting basically telling me i need to turn over all my electronic devices. Including any personal electronic devices i have at home (Desktop/Tablet/Cellhpone/etc) to their IT team, who will go and ensure no company IP will remain on my devices.

    Their entire reasoning for this is, revolves around the fact that they have a record of me using the work VPN from home over the last several months (i have always used my work provided laptop, and work provided cellphone), and apparently the mac id, does not match their records (they refused to divulge the mac address they have that doesn't match my work devices).

    Apparently i have 48 hours to provide them with my electronic devices, otherwise they will serve me with 'legal papers', frankly i think they can go pound sand.

    There is nothing about personal electronic devices in my employee contract. Does anyone know if this is allowed (NYC)?

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    Hey /r/cscareerquestions, where did you intern? Would you mind sharing your thoughts on the company or program you participated in?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 09:38 AM PDT

    A lot of folks, including myself, are constantly perusing job boards to research internship programs. I thought it would be helpful if we could hear about your internship experiences and learn more about companies in the industry.

    Thanks in advance! Any and all input is appreciated.

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    How to handle this messed up situation in a few hours

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 01:59 AM PDT

    A few weeks ago, I did an onsite interview for a company. The position required 1 year of experience and was labelled junior. Last week, I was informed I passed, so the talent manager scheduled me two days of Skype interviews for.... Senior Java Engineer. I have the first interview in a few hours. I just looked at the job description for the first time. I'm no where near capable of passing it. It requires 6 years of Java, good understanding of JVM, Spring Boot, and helping developers with an average of 10 years of experience.

    That's not the only problem. For the second interview, called the "final interview", I'm required to discuss my solution to a puzzle. I never was given a puzzle! When looking over the job description, it says all senior positions require solving a puzzle. I told the recruiter I never did a puzzle challenge, and asked her to clarify. She said "Your final interview is on the 23rd. I hope that clarifies everything for you." WTF she didn't answer my question.

    What should I do when the interviewers call me?

    Edit: interviewer never showed up. I still have my 2nd interview, called the "final interview" to discuss everything like relocation, benefits, and some other stuff, next week.

    Edit 2: recruiter informed me there was no interview scheduled for today; it was changed to next week as my "final interview." They just didn't cancel it on the Google Calendar, and renamed it from "2nd interview" to "final" hence why I was confused. This is still weird as heck. 1 hour final interview anyone?

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    Veterans of industry what was life like for programmers during the dot com era? How did you navigate the burst?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 07:52 AM PDT

    It's my personal belief that the industry is getting a lot of good talent and at a faster rate year after year. Some part of me thinks it's partly because tech jobs are attractive in both pay, perceived life style and past stories of unicorns having made a huge impact on the way we live. But this industry's history is also marked by catastrophic events as well.

    I would like to hear from those who lived it just what it was like to be a programmer during the dot com boom. Why, with retrospective eyes, it was so lucrative, and how they managed to navigate the burst and fallout from the collapse.

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    Asking alumni for referral

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 03:39 PM PDT

    Do you guys ask alumni you don't personally know for referrals? How do you go about it?

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    Consulting company wants to "Modify my resume" is this ok?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 12:37 PM PDT

    I'm being interviewed by a consulting company, and they told me they'd give me free 8 weeks of technical training, then send me off to their clients. However, they said they'll "modify" my resume to make this training look like 6 years of experience. They told me it was perfectly acceptable and it's standard, but I'm not so sure about this? Can anyone give tell me more about this?

    Edit: I've just had a few interviews and here's some red flags I noticed.

    They reached out to me first through LinkedIn, instead of me reaching out to them.

    Their programming test was very easy. Expected 3 hour exam took me 1 hour.

    They keep stressing, "Is it ok to modify your resume to say 6 years? We cannot progress until you agree to this."

    They keep mentioning 67K salary a year as the minimum.

    Asks me about the other companies I'm interviewing and how much they're offering.

    Very fast response times and want me to get back with an answer ASAP.

    Tells me I won't get interviews with less than 6 years of experience.

    Biggest one - I asked them how I can back up 6 years of experience if I've been in school past 4 years and they said they'll train me in how to answer that in the interviews

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    Is it really A LOT harder to find a job when you currently don’t have one?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 08:38 AM PDT

    I keep on hearing people say that's it's a lot easier to get a new job when you're currently employed and it'll be A LOT more difficult if you currently don't have a job. How true is this?

    Like if you have 10 years experience at some of the most well known tech companies and needed to take 6 months off to take care of a loved one or travel the world are you seen as A LOT less hireable than someone with a less impressive resume but currently has a job?

    I have a pretty impressive resume but this theory that gets thrown around a lot keeps me from taking a short break in my career to do something else in my life besides work.

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    As a college student, should i apply to internships that i don't meet all of the requirements for?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 04:17 PM PDT

    I found an internship posting that i'm interested in but i don't think im exactly what they are looking for. First, it says enrolled in a bachelors degree program for computer science. Right now I'm in community college waiting to transfer to get my bachelors so already i don't meet that. It then says experience with c/c++ which i have, but only one semester worth of a programming class so i feel like that is not enough. It also says experience with microprocessors and experience with linux and i don't know anything about those 2 things.

    Should i be waiting longer to look for internships?

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    How do I get an internship overseas?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 03:17 PM PDT

    I will be graduating in Spring 2019 and I've been looking at internship opportunities both in and outside of my country (Bangladesh). I am studying Comp Sci at a university here and have done a lot of freelance web development work (no formal work/internship experience yet).

    The internship opportunities in my country aren't that great—no to extremely low pay (max is around 5k a month which is around 70 USD), lots of pressure, etc.

    I was wondering how difficult it is to land an internship abroad—preferably in the US or Canada, but anywhere in Europe would be great too. Do employers actually want to take on the hassle that comes with an intern from another country, housing, visa, etc?

    Also, what is a good website to look for such opportunities? Glassdoor, indeed should be fine, right?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Hiring managers/recruiters, at each stage of the hiring process, what percentage of people go to next step?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 03:42 PM PDT

    Scenario example I'm kinda looking for: 20% of online/in-person applicants make it to behavioral phone call. Then, 90% of this group make it to technical phone call. Then, 50% of people make it to on site interview. Then, #/# of people got hired.

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    Jobs that help make the world a better place?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 11:07 AM PDT

    I'm a front end web dev and I feel like my only job options are working for marketing departments to facilitate sales. Is there anyone here that has a fulfilling job helping people in a meaningful way? What options are there? Is there a job board for developers looking to make a decent living helping people?

    I guess I'm just a little burned out by sales funnels, customer journeys, verticals, and up-selling. It's not at all what I pictured when I started in this career field. I want to be able to go home knowing that I made a difference, rather than helped sales hit their Q2 goals.

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    Are salaries going to decrease anytime soon as supply meets demand?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 07:32 PM PDT

    I feel like almost everyone I talk to is learning how to code because they want a career with high salaries. I have been lurking on this subreddit for about a year and a half and its now at almost 166k subscribers, it was around 100k last year. Also, so many kids are learning how to code such as my 6 year old cousin who is taking a coding class in 1st grade. Is this career path going to stay in demand for years to come? Will salaries decrease due to the influx of people now interested in the subject? Or is it time to switch to something else while I can in college?

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    Negotiating Last Minute on an Offer

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 03:23 PM PDT

    Hi, I am a recent graduate that got an offer to work for a military contractor in a low CoL area for $58,000 w/ $1000 relocation. They called me Thursday and said they wanted a response by Monday (today, as of writing). I sent an email negotiating $4k more and $1500 additional for relocation (mind my current dwelling is 1.5 hour drive from the job) prior to noon today. I had yet to get a response and called the HR person posing the offer this afternoon to see if she received it and she was not available.

    Am I overthinking things or did I just blow an offer? This was the first offer I have gotten so far, so I am not quite sure what is typical.

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    Is it standard to work on a project or assignment during the hiring process?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 06:55 PM PDT

    I'm changing careers into tech and I've had 2 interviews now which the company said they want me to work on an assignment or project. The 1st company wanted me to do an assignment, but I got ghosted after I followed up. This 2nd company is doing the same thing, except it's paid. Both were after the interviews.

    Is this typical in the hiring processes of the tech industry? Is there anything I should be wary of? I've only had one job where I had an assignment, but that was a random college desk job. The rest of my jobs were pure interviews. I'm in the med device industry.

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    Accepted an offer close to home, but now I heard back from a company in my desired location; how do I approach this situation?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 04:18 PM PDT

    So to make a long story short, I had been applying to jobs since January (close to 100 applications). I recently received an offer which I have accepted for $57k in a low cost of living location close to home (hour away). I just got an email from a company in my desired location (16 hours away) and I am wondering how to approach this. Salary range on the job listing says $60k-$80k but in a higher cost of living area.

    My thought was to reply to this new company explaining that I have accepted an offer already, but for the right salary I would reconsider. Any advice on this situation?

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    I'm stuck in web-dev low salary hell

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 06:28 AM PDT

    Hello,

    I see now that I got caught in that positive-feedback loop of hell where:

    • I do backend web-dev because I have web-dev professional experience
    • I cannot find other job because I have only web-dev professional experience
    • So I do more web-dev

    I'm fairly good at C++ and C#, less in Java, don't know Python.

    What are possible jobs I can go search for? Maybe there are other techs I can learn to become more attractive to other industries? I'm just sick doing more PHP for 1000$ a month like a monkey where I can do a lot better and more demanding projects.

    Thanks

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    Help! Which company do I choose?!

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 05:35 PM PDT

    Hi all, I have 2 offers that I am happy to be given. I can be a solutions engineer @ oracle, or a junior developer @ a startup.

    I currently have 20k in CC debt and live at home (I graduated from a coding bootcamp and that is how I paid for it) plus car note/orthadontics, with a child. If I were to take the Oracle offer, I would be living paycheck to paycheck. If I were to take junior dev, I would get same salary, but I wouldn't have to rent an apartment in a super high COL area.

    Does Oracle's name constitute the risk I am taking on with so much debt? I don't have a degree, so I'm very grateful for the opportunity, but I don't think it will be financially responsible. Finally, It's a pre-sales role, so I will be building solutions for clients and doing demos as compared to contributing to a code base at a startup.

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    Do companies hire devs at a level higher than their previous job?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 11:12 AM PDT

    When interviewing for a company, I know a lot of companies down-hire for a little bit and allow you to be promoted pretty early, but if you interview well enough would you be considered for an up hire? Or if you are near your promotion at your current company, would you be considered for an up hire? For example, if I am an SDE 1 with 1.5 years experience and typically a promotion is near the 2 year mark for my company, would I be considered for a promotion at another company if I interviewed well enough? What experiences have you all had with this?

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    How long until I should follow up on a job application where I got a referral?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 02:46 PM PDT

    I got a referral and my resume submitted on the inside by an old coworker of my S/O whom I've met before. It's been 5 days without a response. Should I follow up? If I should, then who should I follow up with? The worker I know, or someone else? If someone else, how do I find the person I need to follow up with? It's a mid-sized company, 51-200 according to Glassdoor. All I found was someone who is the "Talent Manager" of the company on LinkedIn and a jobs@company.com email address from their website. Should I add with a note/message her on Linked In, email the address, or something else? And lastly, what do I say?

    I'm not impatient, I know these things take time, I just want to make sure I'm doing things right and showing my eagerness to work there. Since I got a referral and a "good word put in", feel that I have a better chance so I want to maximize that.

    Sorry for all the questions, I'm a new grad figuring things out. Thank you!

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    How do companies even choose entry level candidates?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 08:26 PM PDT

    How do employers determine who to call in for an interview based on just resumes alone? Everytime I submit an application for a job I can just imagine the hiring managers throwing a random pile of resumes into the trash and only moving forward with the resumes that remain, just because there's no way to possibly judge someone from a piece of paper alone. Is this true? Or is it just a complete crapshoot who gets a phone call for a first round interview? I know they use certain metrics to weed out candidates, such as the diversity quota, school, GPA, number of internships, location, as well as the infamous Applicant Tracking System, but is there something else that they secretly use to screen out candidates? I am just so curious to know exactly where my resume is going every time I dreadfully press that submit button.

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    In the middle of self-teach, do I wait to apply to internships?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 04:19 PM PDT

    Basically, for internships, rolling admission or not, do I wait to apply once I finish online bootcamps and make projects to show I can code, or do I just apply right away?

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    How do you respond when being asked to rate yourself?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 08:00 PM PDT

    This has always been such a hard question for me. I know PHP at a level where I can pretty much solve any problem within reason but I wouldn't call myself a 10/10. As a developer, I am fully aware of how much I have to grow. but at the same time I don't want to undersell myself to a potential employer / recruiter.

    What is your strategy when evaluating yourself in that way?

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    Negotiating job offers

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 02:01 PM PDT

    I have recently completed final interviews with two companies, Company A and Company B. Company A has already extended an offer, one that is at the top of my requested salary range. Company B is still deliberating. Company A is also a better fit in terms of team communication and office location. In ruminating over the two positions this past weekend, I came to the conclusion that I would most likely turn down an offer from Company B, were I fortunate enough to receive one.

    My question is this: should I wait until if/when I receive Company B's offer, or should I just go ahead and let them know I've decided to move on? I'm leaning towards option 2, but I'm trying to make sure I've considered all the angles before I do so.

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    How important is software testing for finding a job?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 07:58 PM PDT

    My program doesn't require me to take a software testing course but it is optional.

    Based your experiences how important is it to recruiters that I have this education?

    Thanks!

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    Pair programming?

    Posted: 16 Jul 2018 09:18 AM PDT

    Passed the first step of an interview a week or two ago (general coding tests), and moved on to the next step. This step is a "pair programming" exercise with a current employee from the company. Pretty much all I know about it is the language it'll be in, and that they will introduce a project to me over a Skype call tomorrow afternoon and we'll work on it together for an hour.

    Anyone done this before? I'm a little unsure of what to expect. More used to coding by myself and turning it in, rather than working alongside someone from the company as part of the interview. I'll have access to my normal editor and the internet, so I'm not too concerned about the actual coding aspect of this, but like I said, just a little unsure of what this will be like. I have considered that part of this could be less about coding skills (given they've already tested me on that and this thing is only 1 hour long) and more about how I work with someone else, questions I ask, etc. But beyond that, I'm not sure. Haven't done this before so thought I'd see if anybody out there had any tips or advice. Thanks!

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