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    DEAR PROFESSIONAL COMPUTER TOUCHERS -- FRIDAY RANT THREAD FOR July 13, 2018 CS Career Questions


    DEAR PROFESSIONAL COMPUTER TOUCHERS -- FRIDAY RANT THREAD FOR July 13, 2018

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 12:08 AM PDT

    AND NOW FOR SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.

    THE BUILDS I LOVE, THE SCRIPTS I DROP, TO BE PART OF, THE APP, CAN'T STOP

    THIS IS THE RANT THREAD. IT IS FOR RANTS.

    CAPS LOCK ON, DOWNVOTES OFF, FEEL FREE TO BREAK RULE 2 IF SOMEONE LIKES SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T BUT IF YOU POST SOME RACIST/HOMOPHOBIC/SEXIST BULLSHIT IT'LL BE GONE FASTER THAN A NEW MESSAGING APP AT GOOGLE.

    (RANTING BEGINS AT MIDNIGHT EVERY FRIDAY, BEST COAST TIME. PREVIOUS FRIDAY RANT THREADS CAN BE FOUND HERE.)

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    Daily Chat Thread - July 13, 2018

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 12:08 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    Found one of those "Unicorn" jobs where I have almost zero responsibility but starting to get depressed. Should I feel this way? Would you move on in case you start losing/forgetting skills?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 07:47 AM PDT

    Started a job in October 2017, I'm the sole software developer for a b2b financial consulting company that doesn't really seem to know or care that much about my role. I think they like having an in-house "software development department" on payroll for appearances, but don't particularly need or want it.

    I've called it a "unicorn" job because I think it's one a lot of people would love to have, myself included until now:

    • I'm 90% remote, I need to go into the city 1 day every 2 weeks, but that's my only real time commitment.
    • There is zero accountability or project tracking. My boss doesn't really know what I'm doing and it's very rare that someone asks me to do anything. Some things, ie, if they are brought up verbally but no paper trail, I just don't do and nobody ever remembers or mentions them up again.
    • When work does come through, it's usually just small tweaks/additions to a CRM codebase. In any given week I do between 0-10 hours work, this week has been a 0.
    • I took a 20% raise from my last (still well paid) pure software job that was 40 hours a week in the office.

    But even with all this, I think I'm starting to hate it. I've noticed I'm waking up later and later in the day. Now I don't get up until noon, just because. (Girlfriend gets up at 6, which puts our sleep patterns on a massive offset). I'm feeling much more irritable and lethargic.

    One solution I'm sure could be to invest more time into the work, initiate projects to save my colleagues time, leverage that for raises but it really isn't very interesting and I'm worried people might take notice that I'm there and what I could in theory produce. A couple of months ago I received a respectable unscheduled bonus despite not delivering a single project while I've been here, so I think they've no plans to let me go despite not doing anything.

    I guess I'm struggling to figure out what's causing my recent problems, I suppose, depression. I kinda wanna know if this kind of job is something that _could_ make somebody depressed, or if I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth and need to start new hobbies or learn new things during the day (I think that depression could be a factor I'm letting affect me and blocking me from new things...). I have plenty of hobbies I love to do outside of the working week, but during the day all I do right now is play video games.

    Also an auxiliary reason keeping me from quitting: I usually move to a ski town 4/12 months of the year, so this job does work nicely for that, giving the freedom to ski everyday while making a good city wage.

    edit: The skiing thing is quite big for me, I only really want to work a max of 8 months/year - which makes a lot of regular office jobs quite limiting. Hence why part of me is wanting to stick this out as I can keep my salary and not have to go 4 months without pay.

    So would you quit and get some proper work to fill the gaps - or maybe instead try basket weaving/learning the piano/any home-based hobby?

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    Job that would be easy to get or overqualified for with CS degree?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 06:13 PM PDT

    So I recently graduated with a degree in CS from a decent college with a 3.2 GPA. Due to summer classes and some misfortunate events, I did not have any internships in the previous summers so the only "professional experience" I have would be my senior capstone project. For the past few weeks I have been applying to many software developer/engineering positions around the U.S. I have quickly found that some of these are slow at responding and want more experience than I have. Also, for personal reasons I pretty much need to get hired within a month.

    So question is, are there any jobs/fields that would be easy for me to get if all else fails? Like jobs that a CS degree would be overqualified for or a bad CS student (don't consider myself bad but looking for a guarantee/fallback job) could get? Should I be looking more at IT jobs? I've heard that entry level data analyst or systems analysts would answer my question but not sure. Thanks for the help.

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    How do you relax after work, with the context that many CS careers are mentally draining?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 07:10 PM PDT

    I've found, both at school and at an internship at a large tech company, that I cant really relax, and remain stressed most of the time. It interferes with my time off, and normal coping mechanisms dont really work anymore. I know many programmers and CS related jobs are high stress, but it seems as though there aren't many ways to consistently relieve stress and a daily basis so time away from work isnt "part of the job"

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    how much of a raise is reasonable for switching from my first job after only 8 months?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 06:02 AM PDT

    I live in a low-mid COL area and got offered a job right out of school for 63k. 8 months later (now), I got an offer from another company for 71k. That's a 12.7% raise. Is that a fair jump or how does it compare to what's typical?

    My reasoning was that, while I see people get anywhere from 20%-50% raises, i only have 8 months experience so I shouldn't expect a big jump? I wanted, perhaps naievely, to be offered at least 70k so I asked for 72-75k and got offered 71. I just accepted because it met my minimum and the new company has a lot more to offer in career growth which is the biggest reason for the acceptance.

    But financially speaking for future reference when changing jobs, should I have asked for more or negotiated more? I wanted too but I had to remind myself I haven't even been working a year and I don't want to get arrogant in what I have to offer for a company so I just accepted it.

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    employee retention - what makes you stay at your company?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 02:31 PM PDT

    We've recently had a terrible track record with employee retention at my company. Right now there is very high turn over. Somewhere near 30%. Upper management is trying to come up with some strategies to get people to want to stay.

    Does anyone out there have examples of what makes them stick around at their company?

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    How much will my mobile app with 400k downloads help me?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 09:04 AM PDT

    Hey. Last June (2017) I released an app on Android & iOS that now has 400k downloads. I'm a self taught full stack developer with a main focus on C# (the app's built using Phonegap with the backend in C#) and I have no degree.

    How much will my app help me when I start applying to jobs? from what I've read the majority of places are gonna instantly filter me out because of no degree so I'm a little worried.

    I'm in the UK btw, just outside of London.

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    How did your boss respond when you told them you are jumping ship to another company?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 03:10 PM PDT

    Got a potential job offer lining up nicely. Just want to see a sample so I can be prepared. I am in a pretty weird position working alone on 3 different contracts totaling $800K.

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    When should I start applying for jobs if I want to quit my current job in October?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 03:10 PM PDT

    When should I start applying to account for time to be contacted, interviews, and putting in my 2 weeks notice if I want my last day at my current job to be October 1st? My 401k match vests on 10/1 so that's why I want to still be employed till that day.

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    How do I network professionally?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 03:54 AM PDT

    I usually feel a connection with someone if:

    1.) We have a common interest (e.g. software tool we both use, a game we both play, etc)

    2.) Our personalities match (this happens rarely)

    Without this connection, I feel like we're not really "connected" and we just kinda know each other. How can I add them to my network without needing to share a hobby or something?

    Also, for the people who I don't connect with under those two listed ways, I find that when I ask them for a favour there's a transaction (e.g. money switching hands) so it's not really a favour for a favour. Problem is that they don't ask me for favours in the first place.

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    Algorithm heavy job?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 09:47 AM PDT

    i've seen people mention finance on here - are they talking about machine learning and HFT related jobs only or are there other areas in finance?

    I'm looking for 200k+ comp in a new area - is machine learning/big data science/engineering the only specializations that are algorithm heavy and pay well? I don't think game dev/embedded has good comp in general

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    Software Developer with 10 years of experience at the same company got an offer from another company with a substantial raise (almost 20%) and better benefits

    Posted: 12 Jul 2018 09:58 PM PDT

    I got really frustrated by how I'm treated after my last evaluation. Although it was very positive, I did not get any concrete appreciation salary wise (no significant raise, nor the bonus I was expecting). And to add to the frustration I was told I won't be getting any promotion (I asked to be promoted senior or lead). I do a lot of work in an almost unsupervised manner and I serve as a technical reference for a lot of people in the company.

    So after meeting with my manager and expressing my disappointment, I updated my CV and posted it to the first interesting job listing I found (Not necessarily what I really want to do, but still interesting). And low and behold I got an offer after the on-site interview (first was by phone). I was not really expecting to be this successful with a 100% success rate considering I didn't update my CV since almost 10 years and didn't interview for as long.

    I honestly like my current job, I learn a lot and the projects I'm working on are very exciting. However I feel that I am being taken advantage of. I think I'm paid under the marked average and I'm almost sure under what my colleagues make. And almost all of my colleagues who are as experienced as I am got promotions and are either seniors or leads.

    Should I speak with my manager (We have a very good relation) and tell him I want to stay but only if they offer me something similar? Or should I just give my resignation and see what they offer? Worst case scenario, I would go with this new company I guess? Growth opportunities are huge since it is a much bigger company. They even told me I could move to other teams I'm interested in when I need to.

    What makes me hesitant is the fear of the unknown and the possibility that I'll be more stressed there. In the current company the stress is very manageable. For example if don't feel productive I can leave earlier and don't feel stressed to work harder to prove I'm doing my job. But I'm not really sure about this new company, and I've heard from some friends who know people working there that the work environment is kind of stressful.

    I also want to add that I think I'm very valuable to my current company and they likely won't let me go easily. But since I'm here for almost 10 years they take me for granted.

    What do you guys think?

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    What are some tools you've found that made your job search easier? Is there a tool you wish you could have?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 12:00 PM PDT

    I've used jobs boards like Indeed and Glassdoor, I've also used LinkedIn in the past. Is there something you've used that made things easier/faster?

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    Is this normal for a entry software engineer job?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 10:55 AM PDT

    I have been working at my first SE role for 1 year now in Cali.

    I haven't been very happy with the job, stress, micromanagement, late hours, lack of help, short deadlines etc..

    I feel like some of the projects that I have done should not have been given to me as an entry software dev. For example, the first day I was manually modifying production database. I built 4 full scale applications and a suite of tools by myself. CMS engines, employee monitoring software, built the new core company application and tools that all of the employees and contractors use now. Took care of the largest integration deal the company has had. Any bugs reported get forwarded straight to me. But the boss always wonders why stuff takes so long and why I don't get more done... Is this my fault? I am trying to have good perspective on this.

    I work around 55 hours a week and they have me watch my pager every night when I go home.

    Is this normal? If this is what entry is, I don't know if I want to find out what senior level is.

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    Very unhappy with my job

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 02:28 PM PDT

    After my MS in computer science, I joined a financial company as a QA engineer. The position needs only manual testing and be it automated or manual I am not liking the whole QA job at all. I worked as a developer for few years before. I have tried for internal transfer to development roles but did not get any response except QA roles.

    I went for on-site interview for a top software company but could not crack because they wanted me to gather more experience in better projects. I could not answer the project related questions properly because I do nothing in my current project which can be talked about. I am trying to do algorithm and data structure questions often but I have no recent live application knowledge. This has been one year that I am working in this project and every day I am trying to find a way out but failing.

    Can someone please suggest how will I be able to switch my job. I am very unhappy in my current role and I will not go for any other QA role.

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    Question about background check for startup

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 07:31 PM PDT

    Having worked at a startup and not drawing salary, I need to have an employment verification at a BIG 5 tech firm. Can my co-founder answer the phone and say that I work there? Is there anything else needed? What is the procedure? How he should answer the phone? I am looking for generic experience of someone who has dealt with this.

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    Question about choosing a job position.

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 07:10 PM PDT

    Hi everyone!

    I just graduated in May 2018 from undergrad and and have three job offers lined up in front of me at the same company, a well-known Fortune 500 Enterprise Tech Company. I am unsure of which one to pick for my first job as a SWE:

    Position A: Working on a PRODUCT TEAM in Cloud Security as a "Full-Stack" Developer using React and Node to create new security API's and a web app to display the data.

    Position B: Working on a DEVELOPER ADVOCATE-type role, developing Full-Stack "incubator-esque" web/mobile "code patterns" / tutorials content posted on the company's Developer website for hobbyist developers leveraging the latest technologies/API's and products from the company and creating videos to present the content.

    Position C: Working on an IN-HOUSE TECH CONSULTANCY-type role (think Pivotal Labs). Full-Stack Development on various client projects (each project lasting 3-4 weeks) in Cloud, Blockchain, IoT, etc. Fast-paced MVP iterations, Pair Programming, Extreme Programming, Client-Facing Work, A bit of travel, Heavy Enterprise Design Thinking workshops.

    I am trying to build a solid technical foundation for my first SWE position. My end goal is either Product Management or starting my own company. However, I am interested in Consumer-Facing, UX-heavy Mobile Apps (think Yelp, AirBnB, Google, etc.) with a solid understanding of Startups/Entrepreneurship/Incubators. Which team would best help me reach that goal out of the three listed above?

    Thoughts?

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    Possible Return Offer Decision

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 06:57 PM PDT

    Hey all. Just had a chat with my manager today and he basically hinted that I'd be getting a return offer at the end of my internship! Only thing is that I'm currently located in an area that's kind of boring. The company is solid overall, but there's nothing that makes me really really want to come back after college. Coworkers are great which is good/manager is cool, but everything else about the company is pretty average. Also, some of the devs worry about the future of the company, but I take everything they say with a grain of salt. I think it'd be awesome to work in a city (NY, Boston, Philly, etc) for a few years, but that will make things a bit harder financially. Basically, based off any of your experiences, what do you think I should do?

    A) Accept the return offer, work at a place I'm already comfortable at, decent pay, medium CoL, but boring lifestyle and potentially hit a plateu in regards to learning new things in about a year(based off what some of the devs say)

    B) Deny the return offer, look for another job in an area I'd like to live in, better lifestyle fit for me, potentially working with a much more marketable/interesting tech stack, but higher CoL and not have a secured job going into my senior year.

    Ultimately, I'm leaning towards B but I'm wondering if anyone has been in a situation like this and has had any regrets in the decision they've made. Sorry if I come off as one of those kids who thinks they have it bad in this field, I'm just genuinely trying to make the right decision for when the time comes!

    TL;DR - Probably getting return offer, good company but not 100% on going back. Take the offer and be safe with boring lifestyle/potential work issues or look for a job where I want to live but risk not having an job.

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    How do I get into Fintech?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 06:53 PM PDT

    I keep hearing people talk about salaries of fintech companies being insane, but have no idea how one would prepare to get a fintech job vs a swe job. The latter is mainly just a BSc in cs with side projects/internships/leetcode to my knowledge, how does fintech differ?

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    I'm a trainee at a high paying company and I hate my job...?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 07:34 AM PDT

    I have a Bachelor's degree in computer engineering, and i got into this FinTech company via on campus placements. I'm in a different city, 4 hours away from home, for my training. It's only been two weeks into our training (one month in total) but i already feel like I absolutely hate this. I dont like coding, I'm much slower than all the other people who are with me, and I'm always stressing out about how I'll keep up with them. Today i excused myself in the middle of a session, went to the washroom and cried. I feel like i want to quit, but the pay is pretty decent, and I'm not sure where i would find a non-technical job, considering i have a technical background. (I'm kind of interested in HR, or being a professor, or a manager- i don't know yet, i just know i hate tech). Should i stick with this job for a year? Or should i just quit? I'm miserable, pls help

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    How to deal with an unscrupulous recruiter

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 06:15 AM PDT

    Here's the situation :

    After 6 years at the same company, I'm considering changing jobs. I've already mentioned this to my manager so he is aware that I'm thinking about this. Then two weeks ago, I was contacted by a recruiter. She sent me a LinkedIn in mail, to which I replied and we subsequently exchanged a couple of inmails, in which she provided me with a possible opportunity.

    Then she mentioned that, unbeknownst to her, my current employer is also a client of the recruiting agency. My employer is listed on my LinkedIn profile and I explicitly mentioned its name to her at least once. She now asks that I send her an email stating that I was the one who initiated contact, presumably to cover her ass and avoid legal issues with my current company, were they to find out about this.

    What do? She's basically asking for a forgery, albeit a small one. I have the name of the company that I would like to apply with, so I don't think I need her at this point, but I fear she could ruin my chances if I bypass her. Or would she just never know? I'm not feeling super happy about having to lie. She's also screwing over my current employer with whom I have a good relationship.

    EDIT: thanks for the replies. I will terminate contact.

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    Learning about Programming

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 06:26 PM PDT

    I wanted to learn about CANbus and real-time embedded systems programming. I have experince with C++, Python, Java, etc. Any resources would be appreciated!

    Thanks

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    CS Professionals of reddit what job do you have? What training/schooling? How much do you make? Do you enjoy your job?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 06:08 PM PDT

    How many hours worked? What do you love / hate most about your job? If you could chose a different career would you?

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    Do I need to join a startup if I want a job that's "fun"?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 06:00 PM PDT

    My first few years after graduating I worked at a startup, and it was everything I ever wanted from a programming job. I'd go to work, plugin my earphones, and spend all day either coding, debugging, testing, or writing a design for some new feature. It honestly didn't even feel like work, just like an extension of college.

    Recently, I decided to join a more established tech company, both for personal reasons (location), and because they offered me higher compensation. The problem is - I don't like it. I seem to be spending most of my juggling communications with PMs / other teams whose code we depend on, setting up and configuring different monitoring systems, and waiting for code reviews and weekly releases. When working at the startup my designs would focus on how to build massive systems from the ground up, what the performance tradeoffs were, and how to make it extensible for the future. Now the biggest questions seem to be which enums need to have new values added to them. For the first time, I'm finding that I actually dread going into work Monday mornings, and I spent large parts of my day bored and staring at my screen.

    Is this just something that's par for the course at software engineering jobs, and I would have to join a startup again to avoid? Or are there certain companies / areas in tech that can still be inspiring and interesting even at a larger company?

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    Do companies call references from previous internships?

    Posted: 13 Jul 2018 05:42 PM PDT

    I will be applying for full time positions and also possibly internships at top companies (might delay graduation). How important are references and are they even a big deal for new grads and prospective interns?

    Thanks

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