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    Big 4 Discussion - June 24, 2018 CS Career Questions


    Big 4 Discussion - June 24, 2018

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 12:07 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to have discussions about the Big 4 and questions related to the Big 4, such as which one offers the best doggy benefits, or how many companies are in the Big 4 really? Posts focusing solely on Big 4 created outside of this thread will probably be removed.

    Abide by the rules, don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted each Sunday and Wednesday at midnight PST. Previous Big 4 Discussion threads can be found here.

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    Daily Chat Thread - June 24, 2018

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 12:07 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    Is it possible to feel burnout from not doing anything?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 02:30 PM PDT

    I'm a couple months into my first job and I'm burnt out. I'm burnt out from doing absolutely nothing and having no support from the company. I'm working at a government contractor and there's little work for someone who's waiting for a clearance. I have very menial tasking and the mentality around here is "do you have enough work for x amount of sprints?" or "let me see if I can find some work for you." My coworkers tell me to just "wait it out" until I get my clearance but that can take up to another year and a half.

    Has anyone else felt this way? I try to go home and do something productive like leetcode and applying to other companies, but I just feel way too burnt out which makes no sense to me since it should be the opposite.

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    Is the fear of becoming chained to one technology a valid one?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 05:43 AM PDT

    I'm currently an ASP.NET web forms developer. I'm early in my career and when I talk to others get a lot of grimaces more or less. People seem to think ASP.NET in general and web forms especially is a thing of the past.

    I'm worried about this tech not being in demand or the only companies caring about it are stuck in the past and are a pain to work for (ie. legacy code only and no good developer systems).

    • Should I consider jobs that are potentially better for long term development or currently more lucrative jobs?
    • How often do you / have others switched technologies professionally? How difficult is it to find work outside of what you're experienced in?
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    What is it like to work as a data visualization developer? How is the career outlook and does the work differ from "regular" front-end development?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 10:31 AM PDT

    I've seen data engineering being talked about a lot on this sub but I'm curious to learn more about the other end of the "data science stack", for a lack of a better phrase. Is the field growing? Is it fun to work with d3.js? I understand that it's essentially a subfield of front-end development, but does it differ from "regular" front-end development in terms of career outlook, salary, responsibilities, etc?

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    [Silicon Valley, CA] If I get fired for failing to reach my performance improvement plan (PIP) goals, can I still get unemployment benefits?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 07:09 PM PDT

    I was put on a performance improvement plan (PIP), which will be ending soon, and I think I will get fired no matter how I do during my PIP period. I originally thought if I get fired, I'll get unemployment benefits no matter what, but I've been reading more and more that if I fail to my job well, I could be denied unemployment.

    I won't reach my PIP goals because I've chosen to focus on my job search, but I probably won't be able to find other employment before my PIP ends. I haven't been completely neglecting my current work and have been working normal 9-6 hours, but I haven't been putting in the ungodly hours that would be required to complete everything listed by the deadlines.

    If I fail to reach my PIP goals, or if I get fired because my boss said I did not put effort into completing my job tasks, could I be denied unemployment?

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    Where is the "coding after work" meme coming from?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 11:47 AM PDT

    Basically no companies has asked me this in interviews. Of course there is some overtime maybe 1-3 times per month or whatever, and things likes "Yes it's at least good if you know what the new Java version improved". But no one ever expected to do serious projects or learning, same for all colleagues.

    Is this an US student thing or what? Why would even a company want you to waste brainpower outside work and be less productive ?

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    Learning to code cleanly

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 05:21 PM PDT

    Hi!

    I just started reading the book "Clean Code", and I was wondering if there are any good video series similar to what the book is teaching. Thanks!

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    After hours

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 04:01 PM PDT

    I got a job offer and when I was talking about it they said it would be salary based. He also said that I might sometimes work from 7:00 am to 8pm. For people who work salary, is this a common thing to work more than 40 hours?

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    Bad to ask internship mentor to take a look at side project code?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 05:20 PM PDT

    I want to improve my programming skills and have been working on a C++ programming side project in addition to my internship. In my internship I get help from a full-time employee who is a really good programmer and gives helpful/constructive feedback (for the job I get paid for). We also get along well.

    Is it totally unprofessional to ask if (when or if he has time) to do a code review of my side project? If I ask him does it force him to say yes? I don't want to impose, but I don't have many programming "mentor" figures in my life in general who I could just ask. This is my first internship and I'm not sure if this is a big no no or something.

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    What fields have the lowest barrier of entry for non CS degrees?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 07:33 AM PDT

    I have an engineering degree (not ECE or CS) and want to get into the field. I want to work as either a web dev or mobile dev (I know swift and will learn java for android at some point).

    I also have an interest in high frequency trading firms because I find the intersection of finance and tech fascinating, and there's a lot of them in the city I live in. I know some python and c++ from school and from what I've read they're used here.

    Which industry would be best to get my foot in the door for CS jobs?

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    I always see the list of usual learn A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, when asked how to get a job as a programmer, but let's be real here. What does the REAL world demand to get an entry level job?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 05:03 PM PDT

    As a system administrator, I've recently thought about changing careers. Programming feels way more rewarding and mentally stimulating. So in my quest for learning what it takes to get a job, I find 90% of the threads telling the OP "Just practice and make sure you know A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc. When in reality, the programmers my company contracts, or has on site might know A and B, and their depth into A and B almost matches my hobbyist level programming/what I may use for automation. (And most of what I know is just the concepts. I just know roughly what I want to achieve and what code I can steal of quora and modify it fit my purpose.)

    So in all honesty. If I want to make a career change into something entry level. What do I really need to know. I would be applying for jobs in south east USA and not silicon valley.

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    Profession that doesn't require to stare at screen all day for software dev with sick eyes?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 04:26 AM PDT

    I am a software developer for 5 years already and I am even good at it, but there is one problem that ruins it all: I have a very bad case of dry eyes. During school and university i didn't notice it much but as I started to work as programmer it became hellish problem. After every work day my eyes hurt. I have tried everything: Multiple doctors, omega3 and omega7 food supplements, preservative free eye drops, warm massages for eyes, hard enforcing of 20-20-20 rule (using reminder apps), break for eyes every hour, glasses with blue light filter, glasses with tint, etc. No matter how I try in the end after work day my eyes hurt and I cannot do anything without discomfort. Cannot read, cannot go outside (because of wind), cannot watch anything just sit at home and wait for new day to come. The worst part is that I feel how it gets slowly worse. I know for sure that one year ago my eyes needed less time to recover that they need now. Only thing that kept me sane is that at least on weekends I feel fine.

    I am in my 20s and still single, therefore I need to solve this problem now before I can think about starting family. The only solution I see is to find new career where I don't have to stare at screen all day. I have bachelor degree in Information Technology, am back-end Java developer but also know front-end stuff as well. Any suggestions as to which career I should pursue where preferably at least some of my education is required? So that at least no all of it will go to waste. My most important requirement is that new job should have least possible time at computer screen. When I do not use computer I feel more or less fine, its full 8 hour day at computer screen that is killing me.

    Any suggestion anyone can share, maybe someone was even in the same situation as I am?

    Looking forward to your comments.

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    Computer Programmer Analyst - Ontario, Canada.

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 08:15 PM PDT

    I'm enrolled for Computer Programmer Analyst at Durham College. Just curious if there are any others that took this same course at Durham or another Ontario College, that are willing to share their thoughts, and success after completion.

    https://durhamcollege.ca/programs/computer-programmer-analyst-three-year

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    How did you develop your life philosophy? [Serious]

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 04:21 PM PDT

    I am reading the book Grit and they're talking about the need for having a life philosophy to guide you. Briefly, the idea is that this abstract idea gives focus on what you want to do in your professional liveand makes you choose mid-level and lower-level goals/activities that support it. If you buy into this idea, it's supposed to give you focus and forces you to say no to stuff (because those activities don't support goals that link to your life philosophy). It also allows you to not get too flustered by mid-level goal failures, because if you fail at a mid-level goal, you can swap it out with another one that gives the same output.

    If you have a life philosophy, how did you come up with it? What is it? How did you develop it?

    Thanks!

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    Should I forego grad school for social reasons?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 07:35 PM PDT

    I put a lot of effort into grad school. I have research papers, good professors to get recommendations from, really good GPA, etc. I always wanted to pursue AI research post graduation.

    But my life has been pretty lonely, and CS certainly hasn't helped. I get that certain pursuits come with costs, though I worry about my mental health. I am 21, have a few really good friends who I met in CS that are incredibly smart and fun to be around. They are huge into the CS lifestyle though (study hard, leetcode, side projects, play video games in free time) which is unfortunate.

    I never had a gf or really have any friends that are girls. I kind of felt bad about that, though I'm really busy so I can not think about it and be ok. I'm just worried that I'll end up being 30, and even if I make huge breakthroughs in AI, that I'll end up suicidal as meeting people is supposedly even harder in grad school. I think I'm a social creature and I just can't get that fix in my current path. Not sure how relatable this is for you guys, esp the older ones who grew up in diff generations.

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    How do you deal with negative team members?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 09:36 AM PDT

    I've been on my team for a year now, and have made friends with several people on it, and am on good terms with everyone else. I don't know if gossippy is the right word, but there's a lot of ventilation going on. Most of the complaints have valid points.

    The rants have some recurring themes, and are usually incited by daily frustrations - some that seem to go years back. For example regarding a COO who has a history of pushing talent to the point of quitting. Or our team's leader, who insists on being product owner, but never details requirements in any of the tools we have nor seems to actually care much about the work going on. I feel like it's affecting me too, and I start to become more negative/frustrated as a result.

    I think it's healthy to let frustrations out once in a while, but the daily talking behind other people's backs just feels like a tiresome cycle that's going nowhere. Anybody have experience with this, and how do you deal with it?

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    Student Concerned About DevOps Work-Life Balance

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 11:54 AM PDT

    Hey everybody! I'm a junior and am doing an internship where half my time is doing API development and the other half Docker, AWS, and Kubernetes. I really dig the latter role and am thinking about focusing on than initially career-wise.

    What worries me, however, is the seemingly poor work-life balance I've noticed among DevOps engineers. On my team, they're often on call and work evenings and weekends. Work-life balance is important to me which makes me worry that pursuing a DevOps career trajectory might not be a good fit. How common is the situation I described with working evening/weekends and being on call?

    Are there positions or types of companies where this is less so? Thanks! :)

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    I don't know what I want to do

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 06:41 PM PDT

    I'm currently a web developer and I don't hate it, but I really don't love it. I learned to code back in Myspace and Neopets days, and I'm not really that "into" it these days. I don't care to stay up to date with new JS developments or really learn anything else outside of HTML and new CSS frameworks unless I'm forced to.

    I do enjoy troubleshooting and helping technologically inept people successfully do what they want to do on computers. I know that would be a help desk position, but is there any real growth there? I love the prospect of making six figures with web dev, but would I have those same prospects with just troubleshooting?

    I also majored in Economics and love working with numbers, so I've been looking at data analytics. That seems to be not as easy to switch to, though.

    Or maybe there's another career path close to what I want to do that I just don't know of. I don't know, I just know I want to work with computers. Any help is appreciated!

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    Should I build personal website from scratch?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 08:59 PM PDT

    Should I build a personal website from scratch just so I can put javascript, HTML, and CSS on my resume as experience or just use a website designer? I don't plan to go into web development but I heard having more projects and languages makes your resume look better. However I'm limited in the amount of free time I have to learn coding. More time spent on building a website means less time studying python or interview questions. So should I spend time learning HTML as I'm building my site or studying CTCI and leetcode.

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    How to ask to work from home 1 day a week

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 04:45 PM PDT

    I'm in an 11 week internship this summer. The company I'm interning for dropped on all us interns the very first day that none of use would be allowed to work from home at all during the internship. I want to approach my boss about the possibility of working from home on Friday for a few reasons.

    • I'm a non traditional student who's 31 years old with a wife and kid. I'm not working from home so I can fuck off and watch Game of Thrones while on the clock (I don't even like GoT). I'm an adult who can work from home.

    • It's very common for people on our team to work from home or even entirely remotely. A couple of people are on the west coast, one guy even works from Turkey after essentially immigrating there about five years ago. We have many tools because of this and I don't think I'd miss anything if I wasn't in the office. I have very good internet at home.

    • I typically have a therapy appointment every Friday, and haven't been able to do so because of work. This has started to adversely affect my mental health due to some major depression and anxiety that I deal with, something I disclosed on my application when they asked if you have a disability. My house and therapist are in another town an hour-and-a-half away, so it's not like I just take off a little time to go see him. I've had some really bad episodes and some suicidal thoughts, it's gotten that bad.

    • My marriage is shit right now and I barely get to see my wife and kid. Between work and lake traffic (minnesota thing) I don't get home until 9pm on Fridays, my kid is already in bed, and then I have to head back Sunday night. This is also starting to severely affect my mental health.

    • I have previously been allowed to work from home my both of my previous internships, and it worked well because, again, this isn't about fucking off and getting paid to do it but offering me some balance.

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    Worth relocating to finish my degree for a better career?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 08:09 PM PDT

    I'm at a point where I'll soon be selecting a few colleges to transfer to. I'm in Arizona, so ASU and U of A are two local options that seem the most convenient to me. However, I have two friends that did the software engineering program at ASU, and they both haven't gotten jobs in the field. They also don't seem very knowledgeable or confident in their abilitities. Arizona schools appear to get shit on in this sub aswell.

    Basically, I don't want to get stuck in a program that is subpar or that will hinder my ability to land a good job. I also think I'd like to try to get a job at one of the big 4, so would going to uni somewhere like California be a better idea?

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    I'm a third year in CS and I feel like I don't belong

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 08:06 PM PDT

    I have gotten pretty good grades in most of my classes, but I don't feel like I earned it, I've gotten help from seniors and studied only what I had to, to do well on the exams.

    I've also forgotten most of the material I've learnt during my first and second years. I don't think this is Imposter Syndrome, because I don't even know how to make a fully functioning program or application. I watched videos of people saying that they've produced apps and software in a span of a few weeks, and this stresses me out 'cause I don't even know how to make a single piece of software, I wouldn't even know where to begin.

    I'm in co-op (separated internships) and I've done 2 work terms, but they weren't even related to computer science, cause I've failed all the interviews to the compsci related positions. Next year I'm gonna have to do 2 more work terms, and I was hoping by now I'd have sufficient knowledge to tackle those compsci interviews, but I'm worried I would just fail them again.

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    Views on Dublin tech scene?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 05:43 AM PDT

    I'm wondering what the Dublin tech scene is viewed like from outside Ireland.

    I'm just getting started with my career as developer, and there seems to be an infinite amount of roles for experienced developers.i started my first job last week, it took my 3 weeks to find it after finishing college, and I had no internships.

    The tech scene from an insiders point of view seems to be lit. There's job bring announced every week, great start up scene, a great amount of multinationals.

    Dublin going to get Hugh imo.

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    What's the general state of mental health in the tech industry?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 07:06 AM PDT

    I've been working in tech for a month now, and honestly it seems pretty cruisy so far, at least compared to my math masters degree. However, I've also got an offer at top world school for a phd, and considering turning it down largely due to the mental health issues in academia and some personal academic burnout. However, I want to know whether I'm just going through a honeymoon phase with the job, and whether or not people generally find programming work stressful after a while on the job.

    Thanks for any answers.

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    How do you make sure your next job does not have crappy work-life balance?

    Posted: 24 Jun 2018 12:37 PM PDT

    Long story short, at my current company... working overtime on weekdays and weekends seems to be highly encouraged/mandatory for every project I've been on.

    Somehow someone comes up with a crappy and bad estimate for how long a project will take or how long bug fixes will take, tells the client it'll be done in the shortest time possible and the developers (us) are stuck working overtime.

    My coworkers don't seem to mind working weekends and I get emails anywhere from 8pm to 1-2am on weekdays and anytime on weekends about tasks, bug fixes, etc...

    The only thing my manager and coworker tell me is "we really appreciate you working this weekend or working overtime". I did it at first, thinking it's only a one time thing for one project. Now it's been consistently every project I'm on and for several weekends. I'm tired and worn out. Bad example but like all my friends have seen new movies on the weekends or do fun, relaxing things but I'm stuck in front of a computer doing unpaid work to satisfy the client.

    I'm looking at different jobs right now and I'm currently interviewing. My question is... how do I know that the new company won't be the same? What are some questions I should ask them to find out without risking losing the position?

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