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    Big 4 Discussion - January 03, 2018 CS Career Questions


    Big 4 Discussion - January 03, 2018

    Posted: 02 Jan 2018 11:07 PM PST

    Please use this thread to have discussions about the Big 4 and questions related to the Big 4, such as which one offers the best doggy benefits, or how many companies are in the Big 4 really? Posts focusing solely on Big 4 created outside of this thread will probably be removed.

    Abide by the rules, don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted each Sunday and Wednesday at midnight PST. Previous Big 4 Discussion threads can be found here.

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    Daily Chat Thread - January 03, 2018

    Posted: 02 Jan 2018 11:07 PM PST

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    Accepted my first big boy job offer!

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 04:32 PM PST

    I wanted to wait to make this post until I got back to school (literally yesterday — yay quarter system) but over my winter break I accepted a job offer and will be starting in July after a post-graduation European vacation.

    Seeing all the success stories (but also the tough, non-traditional journeys many of you have made to get where you are) prompted me to take my career search and interviewing efforts more seriously.

    I was mostly a lurker for the past few years and have only been able to share very basic internship advice/experiences during that time. Obviously I will keep learning from here on out, but I also hope to become nearly as helpful as others have been to me.

    I was having serious doubts about my abilities to secure a job as the weeks drifted on, but ultimately I am happy where I ended up. I am even able to save money and stay at home during this job.

    I hope you all have a good 2018. For me, I need complete this quarter and clean up some loose ends in the spring (retaking one, potentially two leftover classes I didn't pass earlier in my undergrad) to graduate.

    Thanks for reading!

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    Beware of Coinbase

    Posted: 02 Jan 2018 11:00 PM PST

    I just want to share my experience with Coinbase. I recently applied for a job there and here is how the recruitment process went:

    1. standard application + mandatory cover letter
    2. 90 minute hackerrank
    3. a 6 hour take home assignment

    I was going to quit when I was sent the take home assignment because I've never been asked to do such a long task, but they said they would compensate me. So I did it and submitted it. Keep in mind that at this point, I invested a total of almost 10 hours into this company. After a while, I get the generic rejection. However, it's been almost a month since I submitted the take home assignment and I still have not been paid, even after multiple emails.

    TLDR: beware of Coinbase because they are unable/unwilling to pay

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    What do you regret doing/not doing before college?

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 06:42 PM PST

    Computer science wise, career wise, studying wise, etc. I'm a HS Senior so it'd be nice get some ideas on things to get started on.

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    Peter Thiel (cofounder of PayPal) likes to throw a curveball for potential candidates: Tell me something that's true that almost nobody agrees with you on. What are your thoughts on this question?

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 07:38 AM PST

    Where dopes everyone look for jobs?

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 12:22 PM PST

    Jr dev here, on the job hunt. I'm running low on places to look for openings. Where do you all look for jobs?

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    Vanity Fair: "Inside Silicon Valley's secretive, orgiastic dark side"

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 06:26 PM PST

    Here is an article that you may or may not have seen recently (its kind of a long read): https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/01/brotopia-silicon-valley-secretive-orgiastic-inner-sanctum

    The tl;dr of it is that prominent players in the tech industry often have giant drug-fueled orgy parties and how its an open secret in Silicon Valley. The article also talks about how this affects female entrepreneurs/workers in the Valley and how business is conducted there.

    To those who work/worked in the Valley, what are your thoughts on the article's content? How true is it? To the women on this sub, does this make you not want to go to Silicon Valley? I've thought about maybe working there in the future (as a guy), but more and more I'm beginning to see the Valley as really not that amazing of a place.

    I think this is an interesting subject that could generate some discussion.

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    leetcode problems decomposition into patterns

    Posted: 02 Jan 2018 10:01 PM PST

    I am starting a new series of blog posts where in I describe the patterns one could learn to solve plenty of leetcode problems , which also means one would be able to ace the technical interview having discovered these patterns. Feel free to leave feedback in comments : https://medium.com/@sourabreddy/leetcode-pattern-0-iterative-traversals-on-trees-d373568eb0ec

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    Should I accept non-dev full-time permanent position at a software company and try to hop into dev afterwards, or hold out for internships instead?

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 07:17 PM PST

    I have a standing job offer for an implementation support position at a software company specializing in a particular industry, but am wondering if I should accept this now or hold out for an actual dev internship, which I would probably have to pursue down the line anyway to get into dev full time. I finish my MSCS after this summer.

    My motivation for seeking a job like this is that the internships I've seen are mainly structured as summer student temp work, explicitly stating that they are looking for no higher than junior-level (in other words, you have someplace to get back to after summer as the job won't translate into an offer). I'm a non-traditional student, working full time in a gently tech-related role while I finish my degree online. I'd like to at least establish a track record at a software company. Any general advice would be helpful, as I'm not 100% sure how to proceed.

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    Best way to find local software companies?

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 08:36 AM PST

    Hey guys. I'm recently out of work as an experienced (>20yr) software engineer, but it's been a long time since I've needed to look around. I know there are tons of job boards, but they all seem to be chock full of recruiting companies, consultancies, "solutions" engineering, etc.

    I'm not at the point yet where I'll take just anything to put food on the table. What I'm really looking for at the moment is a way to find candidate companies that:

    • are local
    • produce software in-house rather than loaning out engineers
    • have the software as or very close to their core competency

    I'm not in the Bay Area, Seattle, L.A., etc. so the size of this list will probably end up in a manageable 3 digits. Is finding companies that match a criteria like mine basically the job of a recruiter, and I should just lean on one of those? Or do you know of good research sites that can help me find startups, small shops, etc. that I don't just know about from being in the city?

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    How feasible is it to stay on the technical side throughout your whole career? Do I have to choose between moving into management or stagnating in my career?

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 01:22 PM PST

    Not sure how to express experiences at previous job

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 03:53 PM PST

    I worked two years (one as an intern, one as a 'staff engineer') at an engineering firm as an EE graduate. After accepting the task of being "the QA dude" during my internship and getting typecasted, I built out what turned out to be a pretty lame jenkins+python software testing combo and that sort of tested one of our products regularly. Between required patches and updates to this setup all I really did was pack boxes of new product to send to clients (FedEx, a few clicks later etc) or clean the office/do random tidbits.

    In terms of going at this for 2 years it feels like I haven't developed any skills (maybe Python, having had to learn it after being tasked with testing) that could facilitate any career change; how would you guys write up this experience positively on a resume?

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    I joined small company that has more work than programmers as a junior developer

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 10:18 AM PST

    Did I make a deal with a devil and am I destined to burn out fast, because nobody will have enough time to mentor me and instead shovel work above my skillset at me or did I land golden oppoturnity where they will do whatever they can to keep me and make me useful and my skillset grow?

    Of course, nobody told me that they are struggling with serious understaffin, but I managed to gather that much by spending the first few days in the office and just listening to other people talk. So which scenario is more likely? I am more inclined to believe to the latter myself, because my boss did the interview and so he knows my skills are entry level at best and also told me not to worry that they will not throw me in the deep water right away on my first day at work

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    What all should I ask the employer before accepting to a part equity offer?

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 10:11 AM PST

    I'm getting a pretty decent offer, about 90% of what I asked for, with the remaining 10% in stock options that'll be doled out over a couple years. I asked for $X/year, instead got $0.9X/year + equity worth $0.2X. A bit less but okay, I was overshooting anyways.

    Forget the equity, I'm satisfied with the plain cash deal as it is, so I'm accepting. What I want to know is since I am getting equity after all, what are some things I should probably clarify with the employer regarding equity? I figure since 0.2X is not a lot of money, I might as well just let it sit and if the company takes off while I'm there/after I've left, I get a nice return. Other than that, I have no idea how any of this works.

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    Recent Graduate Working for a Company with out of date tech (No version control, ASP Classic). How can I make the most of my current employment?

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 04:57 PM PST

    Hello everyone,

    I am a recent graduate with a bachelors degree in computer science and I have been working at my current company since October. While the worklife is relaxed and my coworkers are great, the software and development is unfortunately very unorganized and very out of date.

    Most of the work is completed in Classic ASP with a frontend in native javascript and jQuery. They are working on converting to .NET but I am not very confident in their progress so far.

    Unfortunately, there is not much leeway with the ASP side, but I do have the freedom to explore JS library framework(Which may not even be easily compatible with ASP). How can I make the most with where I currently am and how long should I stay at this job? (For the sake of having a professional development experience on my resume)

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    Job Hunt - how many companies do you talk to at a time?

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 01:06 PM PST

    Current dev here about to start interviewing again. I have a list of my top 7 companies to interview with. How many recruiters do you talk to at one time? I could start with my top 3 potential companies, and if that doesn't work out try the next 3. (or start with #3 & #1, then #2 & #4...) Curious what other people do since it wouldn't be feasible to take PTO to interview with them all at once.

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    Goldman offer question

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 02:36 PM PST

    I have been offered a tech position at goldman sachs. I am considering this but the level and base salary (less then 150) are lower then expected. I have ~9 years experience and an MS from a top 5.

    The role is for an associate and the base is less then my current but total comp is exactly equal (after a non guarantee bonus). I will also lose benefits such as free meals and relax dress.

    Is this a lowball offer?

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    Ethical Question

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 09:15 AM PST

    I am in the process of interviewing for a data scientist position, which I believe is going quite well. It is an interesting role, that is offering a $30k raise.

    However, I have an application in for Navy OCS though I won't hear if I was accepted until the middle of March. If I was accepted I could leave anywhere between 1 week to 8 months later. Being accepted isn't 100% guarantee but working with officer recruiter he seems pretty certain I will be picked.

    Would you accept a job offer from the company knowing you most likely will be leaving in an under a year?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Hiring and HR Managers, how do you get data concerning your employees? E.g employee flight risk etc

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 08:15 AM PST

    Do you have this data? If so, where do you get it from? Would that be information be something you're interested in?

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    Can someone tell me if my plan for the next 6 months is sound?

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 03:56 PM PST

    I am a junior developer (one year of work experience, 4 year degree in CS). Location is about 30 mins outside of Baltimore, Maryland. My current job has below average pay, and it's just CRUD/ETL with Java/Hibernate/Postgres. I'm not growing/learning anymore, so I'm just making myself a worse candidate for future jobs by staying here.

    I can't even fill a resume because my work is so basic/entry-level. When it comes to applying for other jobs, I know I'm not getting responses largely because I simply don't have the technologies that these companies want on my resume. My plan is to grind through as many free online courses (edx, youtube, whatever else I find) until I feel competent enough to list some of these desired frameworks on my resume. I'll be doing personal projects as I'm learning and putting them on github. Have people really noticed more responses from just learning on their own time outside of work? How seriously do employers take resumes where most of the "impressive" stuff is done outside of your job?

    Another question is how realistic is my time frame here? I get home from work around 5:45PM, I'll eat dinner til 6:10 or so, then I'll just grind studying until I sleep? As the night goes on I'll probably be less and less productive/capable of retaining knowledge. I'll have maybe 3-4 hours a day (on weekdays) and 8-10 on weekends (of course I'll have other things to do like errands/shopping/laundry/cleaning/etc.) I just don't know how I can have the learn to focus on learning these things after working 8.5 hours on weekdays. I'll definitely be using my weekends mainly for studying, but it doesn't seem like enough. I don't want to be stuck at this job for too long because then employers will start to think I'm incapable.

    tl;dr - I'm not growing at my current (and first) job. I need to improve my skills to get a better job. My plan is to learn from free online sources, but I'm not sure how this will look to future employers. Also not sure how viable it is to devote 99% of my free time to studying.

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    Interning/Working at Visa Inc.

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 03:47 PM PST

    What have your experiences been interning at Visa? How is their intern program, how was your team placement/fit, and were you able to transition to full-time? How was your pay and were you able to negotiate it?

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    Resources for Dynamic Programming Practice

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 07:25 PM PST

    Hello everyone, I'm currently in the interview prep process and have been working on some dynamic programming problems to get myself ready. It has been a long process, but I seem to notice what my weakest link is when it comes to interview topics... DYNAMIC PROGRAMMING. I understand the concepts of dynamic programming, optimal substructure and overlapping subproblems. I understand how tabulation and memoization may be used to solve these problems, and that recursion != dynamic programming and vice versa.

    I've found that Tushar Roy's dynamic programming videos help understand how to solve a problem but not how to come to the conclusion of dynamic programming. I am also aware of LeetCode, GeeksForGeeks, as well as CodeFights DP problem sets.

    If you guys could help me out with any other resources you've used in the past or are currently using, I'd love to check it out!

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    Pathrise???

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 07:13 PM PST

    Has anyone heard of Pathrise? I received an email last week from some person who claims to be a member of Pathrise, a career accelerator / fellowship program.

    I thought this was a little sketchy so I tried to look them up on Google and came up empty. Crunchbase has nothing on such a startup either. I then tried looking on LinkedIn, no dice. Even the address provided seems to be a home address instead of an office.

    I'm quite sure that this is a scam / phish attempt, but has anyone else received this email too?

    Their website is https://www.pathrise.io and looks somewhat legit, but I'm wary of it now.

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    Mobile development vs web development

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 06:59 PM PST

    Which technical career would you advise pursuing for a young programmer?

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    Should I be applying for new grad positions or internships?

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 12:58 PM PST

    I'm currently a senior CS student who will be graduating this summer. I have no internship experience but I do have some projects I've built and a good GPA at a pretty good university. I've been applying for internships mostly so far, but I wanted to see what this sub thinks about internships after graduation. Should I just go directly for new grad positions or will I have better chances getting an internship first?

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    Recently moved to San Francisco. I feel terribly lost..

    Posted: 03 Jan 2018 06:44 PM PST

    • I recently moved into San Francisco with my girlfriend who found a job here.
    • I graduated at a university with B.S. in Software Engineering on December 2016. So one year has passed since my graduation.

    I haven't been passionate about coding and solving problems throughout the college years and didn't try very hard because I hated most of my professors and the way they taught. But if I look back on it now it's just my excuse, I should have studied/tried harder , and I feel pathetic. My overall GPA is 3.2 and major GPA is probably quite lower. I didn't put my GPA on my resume.

    The only experiences I have on my resume are: - three course projects that weren't very big or serious and I feel at least decent about them - general manager experience I have had while working at a sushi restaurant - a temporary hire experience making a Garry's Mod custom game mode for a social psychology research at a university.

    • I remember learning most of the basic data structures & algorithms that I would have to re-study in order to be able to use any of.
    • I have no personal projects, internships, or contribution to open source projects to show off.
    • I tried to learn web development through FreeCodeCamp but stopped because it will take too long before I would be done and I need to find a job soon.
    • I just finished learning how to use Git and Github including how to collaborate with others.
    • about 30 applications have been ignored or rejected so far.

    I feel lost and I feel inadequate. I'm willing to keep studying and learning but I just want to get started, get my foot in the door. I know once I get started, with a little bit of help, I can grow fast. My savings are getting dry and I have to bills to pay. I don't know what to do. I don't want to just keep applying when I know nobody will look at me and close all the doors that could be open for me if I can do something to get their attention.

    tl;dr - It has been over a year since my graduation with a B.S. in software engineering and I have no proud work or experience to showcase. I'm living with my girlfriend who has a job here in San Francisco but I need to find a job soon. I know I can grow fast and have the intelligence to do the work in this field, but have nothing to show and am not getting noticed. What should my next step be?

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