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    Daily Chat Thread - March 27, 2019

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 12:06 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    Big N Discussion - March 27, 2019

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 12:06 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to have discussions about the Big N and questions related to the Big N, such as which one offers the best doggy benefits, or how many companies are in the Big N really? Posts focusing solely on Big N created outside of this thread will probably be removed.

    There is a top-level comment for each generally recognized Big N company; please post under the appropriate one. There's also an "Other" option for flexibility's sake, if you want to discuss a company here that you feel is sufficiently Big N-like (e.g. Uber, Airbnb, Dropbox, etc.).

    Abide by the rules, don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted each Sunday and Wednesday at midnight PST. Previous Big N Discussion threads can be found here.

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    Would any of you be interested in livestreams of an experienced candidate solving questions?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 07:12 AM PDT

    For context, I'm someone who's gotten offers from Google, Amazon, Uber and several other tech companies in the past. Would anyone be interested in watching me walk through and solve these problems in real time? I usually struggle a little through all questions but end up solving them.

    Also, open to suggestions on which problems to solve. Thanks!

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    What do you do outside of your job? How to socialize?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 12:07 PM PDT

    I'm currently a CS student in college and the other day I had one of those existential conversations with a few friends about what we'll be doing when we graduate. I know everyone has different personalities and takes different routes but it got me really thinking about life outside of the 9-5. I'm personally an introvert and the friends that I have right now are honestly the same friends that lived in my vicinity during freshman year, and I find the prospect of socializing with coworkers and having to make the effort to create new relationships a bit scary.

    So out of curiosity, people who have been in the industry for a while, what do you do for hobbies outside of your job? And how do/did you socialize and make new friends outside of college? I'd love to hear anyone's opinion on this, but it would also be great if I could get some responses from shy/very introverted/maybe socially awkward people :P

    Thanks!

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    JPMorgan Chase Entry Level Salary Chicago

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 03:22 PM PDT

    Does anyone know what the entry level salary is for the Software Engineering Program in Chicago? You can PM me if you do not want to publicly share.

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    What were some high paying niche specializations in the past?

    Posted: 26 Mar 2019 09:02 PM PDT

    So today, being a Salesforce Developer nets you a premium salary. Out of curiosity, in the past, what were some equivalent specializations - things that paid exceptionally well due to a high demand and low supply? How did it turn out for those who got into those fields?

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    Should I downlevel to get into a tech company?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 05:02 PM PDT

    I'm having trouble deciding whether or not to take a job offer. As background, I have just about 5 years of experience and am in the DMV area.
    Current role
    -"Lead Software Engineer" (basically a senior engineer anywhere else) in a large non-tech (insurance) company. Just promoted at the beginning of the year.
    -Uses enterprise Java with Spring Batch, in the process of switching config / deployment to newer technologies (Docker, Spring Boot), as well as Agile development practices.
    -I'm mentoring a couple of new employees right now and leading development on this project, which is great.
    -Really chill job with great work life balance, all things considered. WFH 2 days a week if I want.
    --All in all I really like this job, but my only gripe is that the pay could be better.

    Future Role
    -Regular SWE at a techy bank (I thought it was for a senior role, but the recruiter bait & switched me. Typical recruiter BS.)
    -They pay extremely well for the area, but after accounting for CoL and downleveling, I'll actually get a tiny salary cut. However they have also offered a 10k signing bonus plus some relocation costs.
    -Using cutting edge tech (AWS type stuff) and Agile.
    -Work life balance will not be as good. The hiring manager admitted that, as of the end of last year, WLB was bad with this particular team (50-60 hour weeks, + some weekends), but they have made a conscious effort to improve in 2019.
    -401k and vacation benefits are a bit better than current role. WFH 1 day a week.
    --This job will be worse for me in the short term, but has much more room for career growth.

    I'm honestly torn here and could use some input & perspective from the experienced guys in the community. On the one hand, I'm very happy and content with the job I have now. I've built a good reputation here and understand the business well. I would love to continue up the ladder here to one day become an architect. On the other hand, I know that I'll never be making the big bucks at this company and when I look at the salaries I could eventually be making at the new company, it is really enticing to switch.

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    Have I ruined my career?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 08:26 AM PDT

    I gradated with my Computer Science degree in May 2017. My first job was at an Indian IT consultancy, I was hired on as a 'software engineer' but put onto supporting 10+ Java applications, almost no coding. I read online that this is a common occurrence at large consultancies.

    I waited to get one year experience there and then jumped ship and got a job as a 'software developer' at a Fortune 10 company - I've been put on a project now as a 'development lead' where all I use is Unix and am installing and configuring a COTS application. This feels worse than my first job. I've now learned it's important to meet the team first before accepting a job offer.

    I've been at my current job installing this COTS application for eight months now. I recently received C# training. I've talked to my manager and he mentioned that I "might" get on a .NET project in April. I have a 1x1 coming up with him on Friday, let's see what he says. But anyway, have I ruined my career not coding for the past two years? I want to jump ship again and try another job but I feel my skills are rusty now. I am skilled now at Unix, configuring networks, and application support but I feel those aren't very marketable skills for someone wanting to get into a software development role.

    Thank you for taking time to read this.

    Edit: the COTS application has no code access.

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    Does the college I attend matter ?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 07:59 PM PDT

    So I'm a High School Sophomore & I'm already looking a lot into college & college opportunities. My goal is to major in Computer Science or Information Technology , and maybe even Cybersecurity & achieve a bachelors in the field . I want to know if the college where one achieves a degree matters when it comes to jobs and internships & everything in between , as I have a couple options in mind , both public and private of colleges . Sometimes I feel like I won't make it into my top private college , which is NYIT , so I feel like I'll just end up going to a public college like SUNY Canton or SUNY Morrisville.

    Thanks in advanced for anyone who provides me with answers & information !

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    Can you get an internship without focusing on something like web application/ai and just by being good at data structures and algorithms?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 07:16 PM PDT

    After doing a couple of side projects I realized that I don't enjoy building RESTful apis. Can I just study leetcode and try getting an internship?

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    Has anyone accepted a job way outside their skillset? I'm being offered a Software Architect role and I'm not even 3 years into my career yet.

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 09:47 AM PDT

    Background

    I'm self taught. I started teaching myself frontend in 2015.

    I began my professional career in June 2016 just building static websites with HTML, CSS, JS/jQuery, and PHP for a small startup agency.

    Then I took on a client project and built an intranet site for a company on my own using the same tools. By August of 2017, I self-taught myself React/Redux/SCSS/Webpack/Babel for greenfield projects that required me to help design codebases from scratch with another early stage startup. That was a full stack role using the MERN stack. I learned node.js and mongoDB on the job, but delegated the more complicated backend tasks to the backend devs. I pretty much created REST endpoints, performed whatever HTTP request, and return the response object or whatever error status and the JSON response, or went in and adjusted the models or schemas for whatever changes needed to be made.

    I'm a below average backend developer with strong frontend skills.

    Then in 2018 I was tasked with building a deploying a greenfield product to AWS using React, Redux, node for the lambdas, API Gateway, Cognito, DynamoDB, etc.

    I was the solo full stack developer for the first two months and delivered the prototype which required me to connect our app to social media web services for authentication. In addition, with these connected federated identities, users could compile pre-curated content on the platform, select a date to send the content to their selected social media accounts, click a button, and my app would send the post to LinkedIn, FB, or Twitter (whatever the user chose).

    I finally told my agency after deploying the alpha release that I needed backend help because there was so much to do.

    On that project, I created the React component library from scratch using containers and components with a modified redux DUCK patter, and utilized serverless framework to deploy the backend.

    Now, I'm strictly a frontend developer and I'm unhappy in my current role primarily because of culture reasons as well as location.

    The Offer

    The company currently has contract workers for some of their projects and their hope is to bring on a full-time developer/architect because the contractors are 1) expensive and 2) have other projects they work on so they can't dedicate the full 40 hours to this company's projects.

    They are calling the role a "Software Architect" and their goal is find someone with extensive experience in multiple languages that can help determine the tech stack for various projects, lead the architecture decisions, and then code the project in typical agile fashion.

    They currently have plenty of backend developers that would focus on the backend along with some of my input.

    I'd be the solo frontend developer that would help them decide what client side language projects need to use. Anything from React, Angular, React Native, Swift, Java (Android), or straight up vanilla JS with web components.

    Personally, I don't think I'm the right person for the job, but I've passed their technical interview, I've met with the CTO and it all went well, but I'm just thinking they need someone with much more than 2.5-3 years of experience.

    The kicker is, I'm already unhappy in my current role, and this position is a $40,000 raise plus much better benefits and in a city I've previously lived in and want to move back to.

    Personally, I feel like I'm going to be in way over my head, working 60-70 hour weeks just to keep up, and end up failing because I'm not as experienced as someone that should be a "Software Architect."

    Has anyone ever been in this position that could offer some advice.

    TL;DR: I'm a developer with just 2.5-3 years of experience and offered a $40,000 raise for a Software Architect/Developer position that I think is way beyond my skillset, but I'm unhappy in my current job and trying to figure out if it's worth the risk to take the offer.

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    [New Grad] I accepted (but not yet started) a job where I need a security clearance but probably won't get approved. What do I do from here?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 02:26 PM PDT

    I just started filling out my forms and realized that there is probably no way that my clearance is going to be granted because I am/was a total pothead. I didn't think there would be any circumstance where my usage would harm me.

    My employment contract says that if I can't get a clearance after a year I am eligible to be let go. I start in a week.

    I have no clue what to do. I am definitely not going to lie. I also do not want to hurt my career prospects. The only option I can think of is crawling back to a company that made me an offer that I declined. Right now this is my last resort.

    I can't believe how much of a mess I have made.

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    I don't know what to do

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 05:53 PM PDT

    I am currently a sophomore year who submitted at least 300 applications. However, all of them are either rejection or no response.

    I know some people will say that I should submit more applications, but I am starting to believe that maybe I should just give up and plan on doing something else.

    I asked my dad, and he told me that it is normal for sophomores to not get a internship offer since they don't have that much merit. But I know he is only trying to cheer me up.

    Some of my friends started to get internship offers from big companies starting their freshmen year and honestly, I want to ask you redditers if this is normal.

    In my resume I listed club activities and projects that I am working on such as, voice assistants, developing user-interface for games.

    I am going to try harder and maybe apply even more during my Junior year for sure.

    But I don't know what I will be doing during this summer break. Most of my friends are interning, and I am literally the only person with no internship offer.

    So I am planning to go to a foreign exchange program or something, since I need to show the recruiters that I didn't fuck around during the summer break.

    Sorry if you experienced trouble reading this. My mind at the moment is very emotional and is in distress.

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    People who switched jobs before 1 year

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 12:47 PM PDT

    Is it worth switching jobs within a year? Don't particularly enjoy my job currently but I don't know if it's a good idea to jump, because I've only been in the industry for 8 months.

    Will switching to a new job create a red flag? Is there a chance I get paid more if I have 8 mo experience? Still a junior so I was told I would pretty much start over at a new company if I made a switch.

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    Should I renege this software regression testing internship for a DevOps Internship?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 11:54 AM PDT

    I got an internship at government research facility and accepted that immediately thinking that I wouldn't get anything. It's a software regression testing internship. Then the following week I got another offer for a DevOps internship at a larger company paying better. Would it be worth it to renege the previous offer?

    EDIT I'd get banned from the school's career if I renege.

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    Help evaluate my offer

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 12:53 PM PDT

    A bit about me: I'm a senior CS student in Central Florida, Orlando and I'm finally graduating in the beginning of May.

    I just landed a job offer from a big insurance co. who's commercials you may or may not find funny (at least they're short and sweet) at their headquarters just outside of Washington D.C.

    Signing bonus is $2,500, which I receive half of in the first 30 days and the second half of after orientation (about 6 months in). Relocation package includes $2,000. Do these numbers seem fairly small or is that just me?

    Base Salary is $70K which seems more or less, according to my slight research, in the range for the area and my entry level Software Dev. position. But maybe you guys have better insight on the salary. Would it be enough to sustain myself and reduce my student loans fast?

    Perhaps I can counter offer with a bit more? Especially considering I'm moving states away into a District with relatively high COL (studios and 1 bedroom apts. I'm looking at are around $1700 to $2300 and aren't necessarily in D.C. but also slightly west - near Chevy Chase or Bethesda for those who know the area).

    I'd appreciate any discussion, direction, advice you guys have.

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    How long do you stay on at a company waiting for a promotion?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 04:37 PM PDT

    Everyone says to move on to a new job every 1-3 years. How does getting a promotion, with pay increase, factor into that? How long would you guys stay on at a company waiting for a promotion if you like your job?

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    How is the Engineering scene at Expedia- Egencia

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 08:20 PM PDT

    Is it worth joining for a new grad in Chicago?

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    Do Employers Expect Applicants With No Professional Experience To Have Solid Unit Testing Knowledge?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 12:45 PM PDT

    I recently completed and turned in my first "Code Kata" React exercise to a potential employer that's currently being reviewed. One of the requirements was to provide tests, which in school, I've had zero exposure to. I used Create React App which includes Jest by default and I found some simple generic tests with some Googling to apply to a few of my components, do you think I'm going to be laughed away? Idk, just curiously asking since I'm eagerly awaiting their reply, I'm definitely going to study up on testing, just want to talk about with someone that has actual experience, thanks in advance!!

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    First steps towards consulting

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 08:14 PM PDT

    I'd like to be a management consultant once I'm done with school. I'm currently working in retail but would like to switch to something that will give me opportunities to develop skills necessary for a consulting job. What kind of jobs should I like for?

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    CS major interested in working in fintech

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 08:08 PM PDT

    Hi,

    I am currently a sophomore in CS and am interested in working for a hedge fund/bank upon graduation. People who have worked or are currently working at such companies/firms, what are some good skills to have when applying to such positions?

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    How is important is school name when applying to US based companies (specifically in SV)?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 08:08 PM PDT

    New to this sub was just reading the salary posts. For context I'm currently doing my undergrad in software engineering in a not so well known university in Canada. I have aspirations for working in SV when i graduate(about 2 years). I'm wondering how much of an affect not having a target school on my CV will affect my chances/ how much harder will it make it for me to even get an interview.

    I know Canadians have a special visa when it comes to working in the stt being around ates as the it applies inversely as well so I think that's at least one small advantage.

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    Liklihood of transfering from SDET to development within the same company

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 07:54 PM PDT

    I currently work at a large IT consultancy as an "automation" tester. My job is 99% manual testing. It sucks because the application and people are uninteresting and uninspired. The pay is low even for my low CoL area. The company knows of my desire to be a developer so a few months ago they promised to help me move to dev, but it's extremely slow and I've only connected with one other account in about 4 months. It's making me doubt whether it will ever happen.

    I have a written offer for an SDET position at a large company. The pay is 75-90K in a high CoL area which is really good for my 1 year of experience and the PTO and benefits are great too. I have a much higher opinion of the people who work there and I feel the culture is better. My only hangup is I badly want to switch to development but I have no idea whether accepting this offer will make it harder to break in.

    So, should I stick with my highly flawed situation and take their promise to switch me to dev eventually, or should I take this much higher paying job at a significantly better company but with no guarantee of moving to development?

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    Scared of coming off as a liar in future phone screen.

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 07:27 PM PDT

    Hey guys,

    So i have a phone screen coming up.
    On my resume instead of saying "I worked in a team of X to build something" I left out the team part. I realize now that is misrepresenting what I accomplished. Now, I am pretty worried about that coming to bite me. I did this in 2 projects. One 2 person and one 3 person.

    I did the thing because I read that by saying worked in a team it may make me sound like "that guy" who did not do anything. I understand I should have explicitly mentioned what I did.

    During the screen if I tell them that I worked in a team to build that and I explicitly worked on aspect Y, will that look bad?
    I would much rather be explicit about what I did now than losing my job in the future because of lying(if I get it)

    Would like some advice, thanks!

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    How often interns underperform?

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 09:21 AM PDT

    I always wondered whether small percentage if not large under perform at big 4 tech companies. I would think this is rare since they already have a tough hiring process but whats the truth?

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    Needed tips for overseas junior-mid experienced Java Webdev

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 07:01 PM PDT

    Hello,
    I just moved to USA (NW suburbs from Chicago, IL) from Europe and would like to know a little bit more about Computing Science work market in US.

    Little info about me:

    I graduated in University of Technology as Bachelor in Computing Science in Poland. It's been 2+ years after studies and I've been working full time as a Full-stack Java Developer - Java Spring Boot + AngularJS (1yr 5months) and Java Developer - Spring Boot (10months). While studying I had part-time jobs for 4months and 10months in some R&D and SQL roles as an intern.

    Beside work I also created e-commerce project in Wordpress PHP + jQuery + Docker for extra money which helped me learning unix and devops stuff.

    Do you have any advices what should I learn about work market in US, mainly:
    - how to prepare to interviews,
    - how much salary should I expect,
    - how long does it take to get a job,
    - how to dress for interview.

    Any other tips, differences between European and US market would be perfect.

    I also read posts that there are lots of applicants who had problems finding job because there are so much candidates and recruitment process is very long. In EU it looks like it is much easier and quicker to find IT job.

    I've been looking for about three weeks in dice, indeed, glassdoor, linkedin, roberthalf, careerbuilder etc and got only one job offer finalised from R-company which scammed me till the end that office is near my location and they actually wanted me to relocate (which I didn't want and told them at start). I also had few technical interviews but probably failed because they ghosted me or I got a feedback that they need somebody more experienced.

    TL;DR
    I need tips for 2+ years exp java dev from europe to get into US market and find job asap

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    Not sure if I should accept this offer. Need advice

    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 12:49 PM PDT

    A little bit of context. I will graduate in December this year so I have been actively looking for an internship to fill in the gap of summer.

    Recently I got an offer from a large company that's relatively close to where I live. The pay is good compares to other companies within the same area but problems are it'll be a year long and start date is before summer. If I accept it, I will have to do part time school and my graduation will be extended further.

    Another thing is it's not a software job. Job description does ask for knowledge of C++/Java/Python/SQL but from what I've seen after an onsite tour, it's a computer hardware related job for most part. I will have to do hardware rework, hardware testing, system imaging, and soldering components for most of the time.

    I want to continue to go to school full time and graduate soon so I'm thinking of declining the offer. On the other hand, my family and friends who know about this all want me to take it because it's from a reputable company (top 50 in fortune 500) and also because I have no prior internship experience. Only job I had before this was an IT support job during my sophomore year.

    I'm still applying around for a software internship atm. Most of the places are local and won't call back for interviews until the beginning/middle of April.

    So here are my questions:

    1. Should I accept the offer and go to work for some time then later quit if I found a summer internship that fit me? Is that an ok thing to do? Would that leave me a bad reputation with the company?

    2. Considering if you have no prior internship experience at all, would you take this chance and extend your graduation further out?

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