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    Interview Discussion - October 01, 2018 CS Career Questions


    Interview Discussion - October 01, 2018

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 12:09 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to have discussions about interviews, interviewing, and interview prep. Posts focusing solely on interviews created outside of this thread will probably be removed.

    Abide by the rules, don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted each Monday and Thursday at midnight PST. Previous Interview Discussion threads can be found here.

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    Daily Chat Thread - October 01, 2018

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 12:09 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    Don't listen to your family or friends. They mean well, but they just don't know anything about the tech market.

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 06:29 PM PDT

    I've heard this advice on this sub before and it really does feel true in my experience.

    I'm a new grad on the job hunt. I live at home. My family is always asking questions and offering their advice. Some friends are as well. When I got my first all-day interview offer, it's baffling how much different people told me they know for sure that I got the job and would be willing to bet money on it because "why else would they bother giving you an 8 hour interview if they weren't going to hire you?" as if that makes logical sense. They really kept talking me up and telling me how sure they are as if that's constructive at all. I tried not to let it get to my head, but it feels like it did because when I got rejected I was really upset.

    I know they mean well but in actuality, what they often say does not ever seem constructive or accurate. I've had plenty of family and friends try to give me general career advice, some specific to the tech market, and try help me out. I often just smile and nod my head because it's usually wrong based on my research or experience. Sometimes they can be helpful, but more often than not, it just feels unproductive.

    That said, I'm not an asshole about it. I always am polite and do listen. But honestly I can't wait until I land a job just so I don't have to get unsolicited advice and pity I don't want.

    Has anyone else had a similar experience? Any advice? Am I wrong here?

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    New job and miss first deadline

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 07:23 AM PDT

    I got a new job, and I have been at it for four weeks. I got 0 training and was immediately thrown into a difficult project (according to the president, my superior). The deadline is tomorrow and I am most certainly going to miss it. Because requirement were changed, bugs encountered, features added continuously, and the relatively steep learning curve of the business logic and model.

    I am sure it is going to look bad. What do I do? I don't want to go back to work and I like this job. How can I mitigate the inevitable disappointment?

    Thank you.

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    What’s the farthest you’ve gotten before ghosting?

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 01:47 PM PDT

    I recently interviewed with one of the larger companies in silicon valley. Over the course of three weeks I did a phone screen, a day and a half of on-site interviews with practically every senior person on the team, and then an interview with the VP of the company. A week later they emailed me asking for references. Then nothing for six weeks. I've sent two follow up emails, no response from anyone, not even HR, not even a rejection letter. I've never before had an employer ask for references and then ghost out. How common is this?

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    “Because you’re a woman.”

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 08:19 PM PDT

    Let me start out by saying this is a bit of a rant, not necessarily a question, but I don't know where else to put this.

    So to begin, I recently graduated in December with my BS in CS, I have a job working in the smaller city that my university is in where I served as treasurer of my campus's ACM (Association for Computing Machinery) and am still active in our chapter as an advisor. And, here's what you all are all waiting for, I am a woman.

    Before I graduated, I coached a great young woman to take my place as treasurer on ACM's leadership. Since then she's gone on to become the president of the club.

    Last week she texted me asking if we could meet up and talk over coffee, and I said of course. We got together tonight and commenced chatting and catching up. She shared with me that she had an internship at a big company in the next state over, and she got the offer back, which is wonderful! I shared my congratulations and praise, but I could tell something was still eating at her. She hesitated and asked me, "How did you gain the respect of the male CS students and professors?"

    Instantly my stomach dropped. This is what was wrong. I told her that I just do my best to let my voice be heard, I do my best to be unapologetically me, and I do my absolute darndest to tell myself anytime I had doubts that I deserve to be there and I earned my place among those men. I also worked my ass off. I proceeded to ask what had happened to print this, and she responded. "When I told some of the guys that I got offered back, one of them said that it was only 'because you're a woman'."

    At this point, I did everything in my power not to track this fellow down and gut him, instead I told her all the things I tell myself on a daily basis: you ARE worth it, you DO deserve this, you HAVE earned this, etc.

    All this to say, that man took away all the excitement and pride she could have felt about announcing her hard earned employment with four words. FOUR WORDS. With those four little words, he made her question her worthiness. Four words left her questioning her entire career choice.

    To that man, and those who have relayed similar sentiments, how dare you? How dare you take that from us! We deserve work in this field just as much as any of you. We are not given jobs as diversity hires, we are not less than you. We are just as smart as you, just as capable, just as deserving.

    To those others that do support us, keep on. Be vocal. Stand up. Help us. Be our allies.

    To those that choose to stay silent, not taking a position, see above. Silence can't be the answer anymore.

    TL,DR: Asshole tells female peer she only got her job because she's a woman. DON'T BE THIS ASSHOLE.

    Edit: Wording sounded weird in one sentence.

    Edit 2: Yes there are many resources, jobs, etc. specifically offered to women in CS. That doesn't mean it's easy for us to work in those environments where we're made to feel like we don't belong. What I'm trying to get across, and maybe poorly because frankly I'm a little upset still, is that on a peer to peer level, we're generally not made to feel equal. Maybe that's just my experience.

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    Staring graduation in the face, not feeling prepared at all for the workforce

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 10:57 AM PDT

    As the title suggests, I'm a senior who just had their graduation application approved (with a BS in Informatics with a CS cognate). It feels nice that I'll finally be done with school, but I honestly can't say that I feel I should be graduating.

    After 3 years, my programming skills are novice level, at best, I still don't understand a lot of the terms that get thrown my way, and I'm currently working on group projects in which I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Somehow, I've managed to pass all my classes up to this point (many of them with flying colors) without feeling like I really understood the subject.

    I concede that I haven't really been a model student. I've always been the kind of kid who could excel in school without much effort, and that didn't change when I got college (just got a little harder). As such, I've definitely been gaming, hanging out with friends, or messing around way more often than I should be able to get away with. I feel like this could be the reason that I don't understand much about my field and don't feel ready for a job.

    I guess what I'm asking is whether or not I've screwed up my future. Is it normal to feel this way, and do people in my shoes still make it in the workforce okay?

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    Is every company using LeetCode or what?

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 01:16 PM PDT

    I just did an interview with a real estate company. They're local, small, tiny engineering team, and you've never heard of them. The role is frontend on not the hottest tech (no React/no frameworks of any kind) The location is Dallas.

    The entire process has been eye opening. Literally zero behavioral questions. No "tell me about yourself." First step was completing a tech assignment (code using these libraries). Second step was LeetCode over Google Docs. Final step is whiteboarding on-site.

    I thought only tech companies in SF and other tech hubs did LeetCode, but here I am doing it again at a company you've never seen in your life. Is Dallas a tech hub? Is a "mom and pop store" expected to give you LeetCode? What is going on?

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    [OFFICIAL] Assuming Direct Control: New position of Head Mod created

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 07:01 AM PDT

    MODNOTE: There's a bunch of background I've provided here in the interest of transparency, if you don't care about long-winded explanations please skip to the tl;dr at the bottom

    Have you ever seen a situation where there's a committee or council with no clear leader? And when any contentious problems crop up, there's a whole lot of talking, maybe a fair bit of squabbling, but ultimately shit just doesn't get done? Because, like, saying that 'everyone' is responsible is basically the same thing as saying that nobody is?

    That's kind of been us on the CSCQ mod team for a while. Maybe not so much on the squabbling, but outside of the day-to-day modqueue tasks of deleting comments and banning users, we've been slow to implement new stuff, and not very visible or accessible to users (except when they contact us directly via modmail).

    To part the curtain a bit, up until now there hasn't been a "head" or "lead" mod. Technically, CriticDanger is the head mod according to the system; he's at the top of the mod list, and can remove everyone else. But he's actually not active here, and we've been operating with a sort of ad hoc consensus model: a mod who gets an idea that strikes their fancy will propose an idea in internal modmail, and things will go back and forth until there's some kind of rough consensus, and then (hopefully) they go do it. Occasionally, posters will get sufficiently upset about something in a thread, often a meta thread, to where we'll discuss it and (hopefully) take some action to get people to lower the pitchforks. Well, it turns out, this is maybe not the most effective way to manage a message board on the internet.

    We actually discussed having a head mod a long time ago, and we came to a consensus that it was a good idea, it could help with having stronger, more responsive direction for the subreddit, but nobody actually wanted to do it. Sometime after that we recruited a few more mods, and I was hopeful that this would help us with our "not doing enough things" problem, but it didn't. The recent meta thread complaining about us was the camel-breaking straw for me, obviously the status quo wasn't working. I don't agree with all the complaints in the thread, but it's true that we haven't done a great job of being visible or acting on high-level/meta concerns. So, I volunteered to be head mod, the others have now agreed, and thus it is done.

    What does this mean?

    A few things. One is that I can speak with more presumptive authority when talking to people here. Those of you who spend too much time here and have been around for a while have probably already noticed that I've been the most visible and talkative mod, especially for meta stuff, so this isn't a huge change. Having that authority also means that much like Tesla owners on Twitter, you now have a specific target you can direct your ire towards: Elon Musk me, u/LLJKCicero!

    Another thing is that I may make smaller changes without really involving the other mods, and medium sized changes with just more of a "heads up"/"tell me if you object, otherwise I'm doing this thing" to them. This should free my hands to be more responsive to people's requests.

    I'll also be trying to take more of a supervisory role with the other mods, with delegating tasks and actively following up on them to make sure they get done. As you might imagine for a subreddit about careers, everyone on the mod team is a successful professional and is quite busy, so this matters. I'm gonna be pinging the hell outta these dude(tte)s.

    First Step: My first action as head mod will be to host a "Double Meta" thread this Wednesday, where we'll discuss how posters want mod-to-community communication and interaction in general to go. Note that this won't really be the place to clamor for specific policies (e.g. thread tagging), it's more about how we should be discussing and implementing policies, responding to community concerns, etc.

    TL;DR - I'm the head mod now and you may specifically address me to complain in meta threads (or other threads) and I'll try to sort stuff out and make sure things get done if getting them done appears feasible. If you care about this kind of thing then please show up Wednesday for a meta-meta-thread.

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    Why do you browse this sub?

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 09:44 AM PDT

    Trying to see why people get on here

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    Hired as a Jr. Software Engineer however, I got catfished - no coding - Advice

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 10:55 AM PDT

    Sooooooo.... Kind of a long story I'll try to keep it relatively short.

    I recently graduated with a BS in Electrical Engineering with a minor in CS. After awhile of searching for a position I received two offers from two companies. One paid better and had a really very interesting project and the other seemed good too however I went with the higher paying job with the cooler project.

    I was aware before I accepted the offer that I would have to do some IT work at least at the beginning as they were understaffed and that was part of the job description. After a few weeks I had yet to actually write any code for the Software or even hear anything about it so I began asking about my situation.

    Long story short they cat fished me and although my title is Jr. Software Engineer they don't intend for me to be writing software. I will be running automated tests but not actually writing any code or anything I would think really applies to a Software Engineer.

    I don't know what to do. I've talked to several people about it they said they would work on it however, I didn't sign up to do IT work strictly. I was aware I would be doing some but, I don't want to apply somewhere else down the road as a Software Engineer and them look at me like 'why should we hire you, you have no relevant experience.'

    I plan on giving them some more time to figure the situation out but, I am not feeling particularly patient about it as they blatantly lied to me about the situation. What do you guys/gals think my options are? I've been polishing my resume up and getting ready to start applying elsewhere again. Really the only upside about it is I can now be picky about what position/company I seek employment with. I am just really frustrated as I passed up another great opportunity because it was less pay and a less 'cool' project but I wouldn't have had I known more. I've even thought about getting back in touch with the recruiter to see if I can pick up where I left off in the process. I've even begun looking at colleges to get a Masters (as I already intended eventually to get it) to make companies think I am not completely irrelevant as a hire.

    I don't want to burn bridges I am just very frustrated with this company now/hiring manager. I don't really know what to do.

    P.S. if anyone knows of jobs in San Diego CA that are hiring for a Jr. Software Engineer (as in actually junior) consider me very interested!

    To recap my questions are:

    1. How long should I give them to right the ship?
    2. What options do you think make the most sense?
    3. Am I right to feel wronged?
    4. Do I put them on my resume/how do I explain this if I get another interview for another company?
    5. What would you do?

    Thanks and looking forward to the replies!

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    JP Morgan Summer Program

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 06:24 PM PDT

    I was recently offered an internship at JP Morgan for the software engineer internship, but I heard a lot of bad rep about the financial companies and tech interns. I was wondering if anyone knows how the internship is like and if it is worth spending the summer at JP. I only have like 20 days to accept the offer or not.

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    Working on my Github for internships. Any advice?

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 07:52 PM PDT

    Here's the link: https://github.com/yusefjmustafa

    I'm a sophomore CS student btw

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    I feel like I'm the smartest SWE in the local office, but I'm just a junior engineer.

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 03:59 PM PDT

    I have been working my first full-time job as a junior software engineer for about 5 months now, at a web design agency. So far things are going fine, but at the same time it can feel slow especially when you want some guidance on what to do next. And the projects are not as challenging as they used to be.

    There's only two in-house developers present in the local office including myself. When I started there were four. One of them is an intern who just shows up 3 days out of the week. Another was a senior developer, joined the company just a year ago, and says he has about 15 years experience. However we never work on projects together. He is given his own projects and group of clients.

    One day, a car accident stopped him from showing up to work and while he wasn't seriously injured his bag and laptop were destroyed in the ensuing fire. He said it would take a while to recover his stuff, because that's how the company operates. They have everyone work on their personal laptops and they don't always keep up with backups of everyone's work.

    That was two months ago. He hasn't set foot into the office since. It's clear he doesn't want to work here anymore, so there goes our only in-house senior developer. Our other dev got promoted to project manager about a month later, and even when he was a dev, he still needed to come to me, a junior developer, for help. I ended up teaching him more about front-end development than he can teach me.

    The other developers are off-shore workers. We have one senior developer who's in China and he coordinates with the India development team (there's 10 to 15 of them). I have never spoke with that senior dev, outside of the job interview over Skype.

    So now I feel like I'm the smartest dev which doesn't seem to be saying much as it's my first SWE job. Things seem to be going at a steady pace but I do not have a timetable of when they decide to hire new in-house programmers or designers.

    Should I ask my boss for more complex work in order to improve my skills? Tell him that I am deciding to use my spare time to learn more advanced topics? I mean as long as I am the most productive developer here right now, might as well make the most of it. Other than that what are your suggestions?

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    What is a better career option within cybersecurity..Application Security OR Regulatory compliance?

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 02:00 PM PDT

    Hello all...I have an application development/management background...and right now have an option of selecting one of 2 roles within Cybersecurity... as an Application Security architect OR within regulatory compliance. Which career path has more growth potential as well more demand in industry?

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    How hard is it to find an internship as an international in the US? (not studying in the US)

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 02:54 PM PDT

    That means, as a J1 and not an H1-B. What should I do to get an internship? I'll be studying at a university that is well-known in my country, but not so much internationally. Any advice?

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    Leaving the company. A couple of questions...

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 06:04 AM PDT

    I know I should have asked this beforehand:

    • My managers are located in a different state. I need a good subject line for the meeting I am about to set up. I don't want it to be ambiguous (Discussion) and I don't want to come off as threatening (Discussion on Me Leaving).
    • For nearly 2 years I was unable to book vacation even ahead of time. It always got canceled due to some important project stuff. My company policy is that they will pay out vacation time. I feel like I am obligated to that pay. How should I bring that up or am I wrong to bring it up at all?
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    Applying to grad school and jobs at the same time?

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 01:14 PM PDT

    I'm currently a junior, doing my bachelors in CS. I'm working on research (in NLP) with a prof and it's something I'd like to further pursue. So I'm considering applying to masters programs next year, but I also want to apply to industry jobs in case I don't make it.

    The problem is that by the time grad school decisions roll out it's going to be late in senior year, so I'm worried I won't be able to snag any decent offers. Ideally, I'd like to apply to jobs while waiting, but I'll almost certainly back out if I get in.

    Has anyone been in this position before/care to offer some advice?

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    Salary Expectations for New Grad

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 02:17 PM PDT

    I graduated last month with a BS in CS & Info Sec. I have no experience and couldn't land an internship. A temp service here in NYC said they can probably get me into a Help Desk Greeter position paying $35k-40k. I make that now at my customer service job that requires basic computer and customer service skills. I've read a lot on here not to make a big deal about pay with your first job, but I'm wondering should I hold out for better. My job experience has been mostly customer service and also some basic tech support with a wireless carrier and a cable provider. I also know some C++, Python, R, and SQL, but I'm not the best programmer. I am a quick learner however. Should I continue to search for something better?

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    First job post college, 5 months in, wanna quit.

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 11:54 AM PDT

    tl;dr Is 5 months too soon to quit a job?

    I graduated early may and began working a week later, the company I work at had me as an intern the summer before and while the internship was a great experience I am struggling to deal with the stress of being a full-time programmer, especially because it is work that I do not have any interest in. On top of that even with being at a large company the work environment is really hostile and unprofessional.

    Work here has really been eating away at my health because it is all I ever think about. Obviously I will want to have something else lined up before I quit but is 5 months far too soon to quit this position?

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    What questions to learn about a company's true culture?

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 05:02 PM PDT

    Hi all,

    I'm surprised I don't see many posts here, or elsewhere on reddit, about working full-time at Citi. And the few threads about their internships are hardly much to go off of. Could be that most people prefer to pm this type of conversation.

    I've been offered full-time at Vanguard after a summer internship there and it's not a bad offer, but it's also not great. No relocation, about average or below-average pay, and it's in a state I'm not particularly interested in moving to.

    The typical questions & answers

    So I'm going into my final round interview with Citi and I'm hoping to find out as much as I can about their work culture, seeing as how I can't possibly get as much insight as an internship gave me. What kind of questions do you all typically ask to find the truth about work culture? Every company on the planet right now says they:
    - Have great work-life balance,
    - Offer amazing benefits,
    - Work on cool things,
    - Have a rotational culture,
    - Provide room to grow into a career and progress

    So how the hell do you filter through these? What are some questions I can ask that can't so easily be defaulted to one of those answers? I really want to know what progression looks like and how long it takes, how their culture handles new ideas or conflict, work staying at work and not following you home, that kind of stuff.

    What matters most to me is working with people I enjoy being around 8-10 hours a day, which is gonna be hard to determine in a day or two of interviewing. They do have a happy hour the day before the interview to meet with current employees, though, so I want to make the best of that.

    Thanks a ton in advance.

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    LinkedIn vs. Indeed vs. Monster vs. .... Is there a difference?

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 05:00 PM PDT

    Does it make a difference which one of these websites ones applies to? Should one apply across many of them or focus on one platform? It would probably be nice to hear from a recruiter.

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    Should I get my BS in CS?

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 10:01 AM PDT

    I've been working as a "software engineer" at a tech company for almost two years now and was debating if I should go back to school. I would continue working at my current job just take night/weekend classes at a community college until I could transfer.

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    1,500 applications, nothing.

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 11:42 AM PDT

    Not sure what to do. I have to PM resumes since CSCareerQuestions bot will remove the post if I put it directly.
    I graduated with a Mechanical Engineering degree + aerospace certificate from a modest state school. Around my junior year I realized I want to do CS as a career so I started doing coding projects. Specifically, sports analytics projects pertaining to soccer. This has culminated in my blog/portfolio footynumb3rs.wordpress.com as well as github github.com/footynumb3rs.

    Yet, after applying to hundreds upon hundreds of jobs I haven't been able to land a job. I've gone on 3 first rounders and have been responded to roughly 10-15 times with no follow up. I'm not sure what the issue is since I've spent LOTS of time editing and re-editing my resume, my LinkedIn, etc.

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    How Much Leetcode Should I Grind If I Don't Care About Tech Giants?

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 11:38 AM PDT

    I am also looking for a Web Development position, and it would be my first job.

    Edit: My primary job search area is going to be San Francisco

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    Worried about my future (Associates degree question)

    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 07:45 PM PDT

    Hi everyone,

    I'm in my last semester of my associates degree and starting to get a bit nervous...

    I've been reading that an associates degree is pretty much worthless and a waste of time, and I'd be much better off going for a bachelors. Not great feeling like I've wasted the last 2 years of my life (Haven't had time to work on many personal projects). I'm 24, and a bit hesitant to go through another 2 years of education (I have alot on my plate as it is), but obviously if there is no other option I will do so.

    My question is this: I have the potential to work for my family company, essentially writing applications to aid in design/manufacture of concrete plus some web development, with not so great pay and 0 benefits. Would this be a smarter way to gain experience and a leg up or am I better off just finishing a four year?

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