Big 4 Discussion - October 14, 2018 CS Career Questions |
- Big 4 Discussion - October 14, 2018
- Daily Chat Thread - October 14, 2018
- Capital One is a very annoying company
- You Will Fail
- Coding Screen Example
- Fed up with nonsense. People who successfully got out: how'd you pull it off?
- Company just sent me a 4 hour coding challenge to complete by the end of the day.
- 2 Internship Offers... How to negotiate?
- Community College Grads
- Can I Request not to work with a co-worker who Bullied Me?
- Should I be afraid of being on call?
- Any ex-AMEX interns willing to share their experiences?
- Why is it bad to accept an offer early?
- Difficult decision between 2 full time offers - deadline in 3 days.
- Having a terrible time applying entry level is it time to change careers/fields?
- I've been working at a startup post-graduation for 2 years as a full-stack developer. I'm the only developer and am in charge of architecting and developing the entire product, which is now nearly complete. How do I best market this information to get a better job?
- question on mathematical solutions to leetcode questions
- Choosing between mobile app platforms
- How useful is a site like hackerrank?
- I've become anxious and depressed at my job. Feel like I'm being taken advantage of.
- Reapplying after rejection? (Only one month)
- Is a CS degree the wrong path for me?
- How do I start a career in CS?
- When should I start actually applying for programming jobs?
- How do you know when to quit?
- International Internships
| Big 4 Discussion - October 14, 2018 Posted: 14 Oct 2018 12:06 AM PDT Please use this thread to have discussions about the Big 4 and questions related to the Big 4, such as which one offers the best doggy benefits, or how many companies are in the Big 4 really? Posts focusing solely on Big 4 created outside of this thread will probably be removed. Abide by the rules, don't be a jerk. This thread is posted each Sunday and Wednesday at midnight PST. Previous Big 4 Discussion threads can be found here. [link] [comments]  |
| Daily Chat Thread - October 14, 2018 Posted: 14 Oct 2018 12:06 AM PDT Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk. This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here. [link] [comments]  |
| Capital One is a very annoying company Posted: 14 Oct 2018 08:27 AM PDT If there ever was a company to teach me that good money + modern tech is simply NOT the only things that matter in finding a job. Everyone here throws you under the bus because of the stupid stack ranking. Every engineer is trying to 'win' ahead of you to get a promotion. The VP's are master manipulators that talk about the same old "harvesting company culture" bs. Maybe I'm just ranting. I learned a lot from them but I can't wait to move. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 14 Oct 2018 10:08 AM PDT You'll get recruiters that will call, email, and LinkedIn message you, but never reply once you do. You will get interviews and phone screenings where you don't hear back for days, weeks, or just never. You will fail on-site interviews due to technical questions or just because the team didn't see you as a fit. People never talk about it on this subreddit, but you will fail. But remember, the way you persevere through all the failures is what sets you apart. There are so many people that just quit and pack it all up due to a failed interview or being on the job hunt for too long. It's hard finding a job. It hurts to get rejected. After all the shit you go through, it makes the job you snag feel like it's the best thing that ever happened to you. I've received an offer for a company, just for them to take it away three days later because "It was just filled". I've failed on-site interviews because the team just didn't see me as fit (and that's okay). I've had recruiters from amazing companies hit me up, just to ghost me. And through all that, I just got my first real software engineering job after I failed their phone screening. They sent me my notice of failing the phone screening, and I replied with the correct answer I did after the call because I knew I could do it. Five days later they asked me to redo my answer with a different technique, and a week later I got my first software engineering job with them after 2 on-sites. It really is a long grind. You will fail, get back up, and fail again. Don't ever forget that your perseverance will pay off in the long run, and don't let other people's success on this subreddit (interns with unicorn companies, people with high six figures salaries, etc) make you feel like you're lesser than anyone else. You got this. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 14 Oct 2018 02:11 PM PDT Thought it'd be useful to see one of these for anything that's interested. There's a bunch of whiteboard videos on CTCI, but didn't find many examples of the phone portion. [link] [comments]  |
| Fed up with nonsense. People who successfully got out: how'd you pull it off? Posted: 14 Oct 2018 03:58 PM PDT Title should be self-explanatory. I'm sick of the tech industry. I've been doing this for 15 years and it's all been pointless. I've been trying to get out for years. It seems hard to do. There aren't many options available to an ex-programmer except management in the tech industry, which means you don't get away from companies run by children and purposeless work. For those who got out of this garbage pile, how'd you do it? [link] [comments]  |
| Company just sent me a 4 hour coding challenge to complete by the end of the day. Posted: 14 Oct 2018 10:21 AM PDT Like the title says, I received an email this morning from a company to complete a 4 hour online coding test by the end of the day. This is for a software engineering internship and because it's my first time applying to jobs, I'm not sure how normal this is (I feel like it's very unreasonable). To be honest I'd love to work for this company, but I have a lot of school work to finish. Should I try asking for an extension or just take it today and push off my other work? Any advice/suggestion would be appreciated. Edit: I've decided not to take the test and instead emailed them asking for a deadline extension. Second edit: So as /u/kdnvk pointed out, the company actually sent out a reply email after I applied where it stated that they would give a 4 hour coding test today. I didn't read it and just assumed it was an automated message of no importance. So this is 100% my fault and I already sent out a somewhat passive aggressive email saying it was unreasonable so there goes that. TLDR: I'm an idiot who should read my emails. [link] [comments]  |
| 2 Internship Offers... How to negotiate? Posted: 14 Oct 2018 05:43 PM PDT I'm a junior and this is my first time receiving multiple job offers. Company A is offering $34/hr with a lump sum $1500 housing stipend while Company B is offering $25/hr and provides housing. Is it ok to try and negotiate for an internship? If so, how should I go about doing it? I prefer Company B but would like if they could go a little higher wage wise, if not match the other offer. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 14 Oct 2018 04:46 PM PDT Community college grads (particularly those who didn't complete a 4 year) How did you get your first internship? How long did it take? What was the just difficult part of interviewing? Any other notes? [link] [comments]  |
| Can I Request not to work with a co-worker who Bullied Me? Posted: 14 Oct 2018 09:54 AM PDT This has been an ongoing problem for over a year now. First the co-worker was bullying me and I felt sick knowing I'd be working close with him once a week. Finally I showed my parents some of the things he said and they made me go to my supervisor. She said she needed to bring it to the Executive Director and said "I'm not saying this right now, but there is no way he is going to be able to work here." The ED did an investigation and told me she was "putting measures into place" to ensure it didn't happen again, but couldn't tell me anything else. She also suggested I should talk to a therapist, and made me sign a confidentiality form so I'm not allowed to talk to anyone at work about it. Over a year later, I still feel sick working with him. I worry all the time about this. The therapist is given me some techniques but I can't seem to move on. I don't understand why my boss said she was going to fire him. I don't understand why the Executive Director didn't punish him. I don't know why he never apologized. He doesn't talk to me at all, and sometimes I feel excluded from the team environment. My depression is very bad. I "think" I might have OCD, because I have the obsessive thoughts. Do you think I should ask my doctor if he can give me a medical letter explaining that I should not have to work closely with this co-worker? It's a weekend, and frankly I don't care if I work the weekend or not.. I just don't want to work near him. [link] [comments]  |
| Should I be afraid of being on call? Posted: 14 Oct 2018 06:47 PM PDT Hello CSCareerQuestions! I'm a part time Front End Developer and full time college student. I'm a senior with 2 semesters following this one to graduate. It feels like when I'm not doing school work, I'm working. I do usually take Saturdays off but I work pretty much every other day. I know that students my age are usually really busy trying to balance a social life, school, and a job, but I feel like I'm a special case because I'm already in the field. I don't have much time to socialize, but I still get to see my friends every once in a while. I like my current job, and would like it way more if I didn't have school right now but I understand this is just a temporary thing. Today one of my coworkers called me, and talked about him doing a mix of work and homework today (he's a student as well). I told him that it sucks how us student developers are busy but it'll get better once we graduate. He got very serious and said at his last internship the senior application developer worked nights and weekends very frequently and that it's something all people in IT should prepare for. I brushed it off and said it was just a bad company but he continued to tell me that continuing in IT leads to stressful jobs and being on call pretty much all the time. I love what I do now, and I think I'm setting myself up to get a good job after graduation since I'm already doing Front End Development. Although talking to my coworker made me nervous. I don't want to be expected to work and breathe code every moment of my life. I like my job, but I literally can't do it all the time. Can anyone tell me what it's really like to work outside of school? Is it really true that we're always expected to be working? Thanks in advance. [link] [comments]  |
| Any ex-AMEX interns willing to share their experiences? Posted: 14 Oct 2018 05:18 PM PDT Hi everyone. I am a sophomore CS major that was fortunate enough to receive an internship offer from AMEX at their Phoenix, AZ location. While the past interns and recent grads speaking at an event held for interns last week said it's a great experience, I realize they are biased and I've seen some pretty bad reviews on their culture/work here on CSCQ. This is my only internship offer and I plan on accepting it if I don't get an offer from JP Morgan (which I'm not sure is any better quite frankly) but before I do, I wanted to hear some more opinions. If anyone has ANY information, could they please let me know what they think? I have read all of the previous posts and see it is very mixed. In addition, there seems to be a lack of information on their NYC office. While I am local to the Phoenix area, I saw one post mentioning that cyber-security and data science is done at the NYC office and that seems way more interesting (as well as better resume-wise) so I'm not sure if I should try to intern there despite Phoenix being their "main tech hub." Thanks in advance! Also, regarding teams, I was told that we are matched with a manager in the spring. This means I would have to accept the offer without even seeing my team/what I'll be working on. [link] [comments]  |
| Why is it bad to accept an offer early? Posted: 14 Oct 2018 06:56 PM PDT I recently accepted my offer for an internship position, but when I received it, everyone I talked to said to wait until the deadline to accept it. Is it bad to accept an offer early if this company is your dream company/you are satisfied with? Especially for an internship? I had no other offers pending but I did do many interviews with other companies (I haven't heard back from them when I received the offer). The company I accepted is my dream company and I was super excited to accept, so I accepted the day I got it. What are the benefits of waiting, even if you know you're going to accept? Is it to look "less desperate" to the recruiter? What are the consequences? [link] [comments]  |
| Difficult decision between 2 full time offers - deadline in 3 days. Posted: 13 Oct 2018 11:48 PM PDT This is the first major decision I have had to make in my life and I don't know what to do. I interned at company A this summer, they are a health insurance company in a lower cost of living city in the midwest. Company A was taking a long time to send out return offers so I interviewed with company B in Chicago which is a big bank/financial company. Company B offered me 90k with 5k signing bonus (and they have a pension which is awesome). I finally got my offer from company A which was 76k, a bit less but probably worth more cost-of-living wise. Company A is also in my hometown with all my family, and I met a lot of good people there that I would enjoy working with, and the opportunity to move up is very good. However, with company A I am not sure that I would enjoy doing the work as much as it seems like it will just end up being boring and repetitive using a lot of C#. Company B has a 2 year long intro program where I will get to learn and be paired up with a mentor and spend a lot of time as a new hire learning the ropes, rather than being thrust straight into work like I would be at company A. I feel like I would enjoy the work I would be doing more there, however I have heard it is also very team dependent. However in Chicago I don't know anyone or anything, except I think I would enjoy the urban environment. This is just such a hard decision for me and I just keep going back and forth. Was anyone else in this position and has any advice for someone like me? [link] [comments]  |
| Having a terrible time applying entry level is it time to change careers/fields? Posted: 14 Oct 2018 02:32 PM PDT I am a masters level computer science student (top 10 school in the US). Ive put in close to 200 applications for internships alone and another 150-250 for entry roles. Ive applied relatively broadly, 70% applications sent to Tech hubs, and 30% sent out to somewhat random places (Utah, Texas, Colorado, Arizona) I have previous internship experience (One internship and a Co-OP) Im a us citizen, no HR/ legal issues there Im trying to use references where I can Im starting to feel at a loss what to do. Ive been applying since late August and all I have in hand is one startup in progress. Besides that I got the standard google summer internship coding challenge. NOTHING, NOTHING else. Originally I was applying big because I had al ot of friends who worked at big N's (for internships) say that they have a similar resume, they got in, and if anything mine is/was better than theirs. I dont know what to do, should I change careers to something else? [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 14 Oct 2018 11:03 AM PDT tl;dr I've been working at a company for 2 years post-graduation and have single-handedly planned, designed, and developed a product that has proven to be very valuable. How do I best leverage this experience for my next job? I've been working at a law services company for over 2 years and have been the sole developer of a SAAS product. I was in charge of planning, executing, and maintaining all aspects of not only the SAAS product but other smaller projects that were requested along the way. I wear a lot of hats at this company, which gives me a ton of responsibility to show for. These 'hats' include DB administrator, server admin, user admin, trainer, support, etc. The pay is pretty good for a recent grad but not as great as it could be, and I do not have any stake in the company. You don't have to shit on me about that, I know it's in my best interest to start looking at better jobs. The product I delivered has real users and real proven results for it's user base which I can explain via hard numbers in an interview. I'm very proud of the work that I've done, but I'm not sure how to best put all of that experience and responsibility on a single-page resume. I also don't want to seem like I'm BSing anything. Here are the specifics of my experience.
Anyway, I'd like to get a better job PREFERABLY doing something other than sitting all day as a code-monkey. I believe I have great people skills and would like to be able to branch out using my experience as leverage. I don't mind working as a developer since I love coding and tech, I just aspire for more than that. I'd really like to get a job at a great company, I don't know what they're looking for in my specific situation. I worry that they'll see me as someone with "bad habits" since I never learned from an experienced senior developer. I also worry that it'll seem like I'm bullshitting if I say that I did all of these things right out of college. I feel like if I do an interview claiming all these things they'll tear me apart trying to call my 'bluff'. Everything about my job is unorthodox. How do I set myself apart from the usual junior developers? PS you don't have to rip me a new one for staying so long without even any stake in the company [link] [comments]  |
| question on mathematical solutions to leetcode questions Posted: 14 Oct 2018 07:35 PM PDT So lately I've been doing some leetcode, and I realize for certain types of questions, I find I'm able to reach a solution, but then when I run it it turns out mine is slower than lots of the submissions. Then, when I look up the "99%" solutions, I find that often they have to do with math which, to me, seems unnecessarily complicated at times, and definitely not straightforward. Like I'll read the solution and think there's no way I could have just figured out this unintuitive approach to the algorithm. I've seen this scenario come up with lots of bit manipulation questions especially, like this one for example: https://leetcode.com/problems/counting-bits/ I managed a straightforward, but comparatively slow solution. when I looked up the faster solutions, like this-time-O(n)-space-beats-99.9), it's like I know it works, but I can't follow the logic in a straightforward manner without actually working through the code on paper. My question is- is writing complicated solutions like this to achieve faster runtime better off in interviews as compared to writing a more readable, but slower solution? It just seems like this is venturing into math-major territory, and I'm not sure if it's something I'm expected to be adept at. [link] [comments]  |
| Choosing between mobile app platforms Posted: 14 Oct 2018 07:32 PM PDT Hi guys, I'm sure this gets asked all the time, but I'm trying to decide between learning iOS or Android development. Here are a few questions I'm wondering, that I haven't found good/detailed answers from recent posts.
I'm just having a really hard time deciding between the two, and subsequently, choosing a phone and laptop setup. I don't doubt I can learn either fine; I took computer science classes in high school (7 years ago), and although I forget the syntax of Java (the language learned), I still know the concepts of general programming already. I've completed two books on iOS programming (both BNR books) but I still keep second guessing which is better (that's a whole different personal problem to be solved). [link] [comments]  |
| How useful is a site like hackerrank? Posted: 14 Oct 2018 07:25 PM PDT I'm a new grad searching for work and have just been practicing stuff for the time being. Will solving puzzles really help? (Sorry if this is a poor question) [link] [comments]  |
| I've become anxious and depressed at my job. Feel like I'm being taken advantage of. Posted: 14 Oct 2018 10:32 AM PDT I'm a year into my first job as a junior developer and the first 9 months or so were great. I got to work on some interesting projects and honestly enjoyed coming into work.. until about 3 months ago. My manager told me he wanted to have me spend the next couple of months working on migrating and changing the deployment process for a few of our applications as a solo effort. My team lead protested this at first to our manager, saying it was a lot of work and it should be spread out. My manager just pointed to me and said to him "What? Are you kidding me? Do you know how much work these young guys can do?". I reluctantly agreed after he dangled a carrot in front of me (promising to give me feature work I'm interested in after). Fast forward 3 months, here I am still sitting in infrastructure hell next to my co-worker, a senior developer who never has to do any bullshit work. My manager comes along and gives him the work he promised me... I'm honestly just angry and sad. I'm not sure if I'm acting entitled but it doesn't feel fair.. I want to quit my job but I really want the experience that would come with the work my manager initially promised me. There will be more work down the pipeline for it but how can I even trust my manager? And I also just feel like I'm not progressing as a programmer, working on this stuff I'm currently working on. Any advice on my predicament? [link] [comments]  |
| Reapplying after rejection? (Only one month) Posted: 14 Oct 2018 11:07 AM PDT Is it bad to reapply after rejection only one month later? My resumes had some major issues but I've fixed it. Can I reapply if no specifications like 6 months? Will companies be able to correlate my new resume to my previous one? Edit: this is for internship next summer. [link] [comments]  |
| Is a CS degree the wrong path for me? Posted: 14 Oct 2018 06:22 PM PDT I have 2-3 more years before I finished my bachelor degree in CS. I've enjoyed all the programming classes so far. But I really struggled in other STEM courses such as Physics, Calc, and Linear Algebra. I've received all A's in those classes, but I had to work really hard for it. The problem is I am not retaining any of that stuff. I feel like all the hard work to getting the A's in those classes are wasted. I'm currently taking Discrete Math, I find myself again investing so much time in the course when I know a year later, I will not remember anything. I won't be able apply any of those knowledge in my CS career. Lately, I've been contemplating quitting school and investing all my time learning programming instead. Any grads felt this way during their time in school? [link] [comments]  |
| How do I start a career in CS? Posted: 14 Oct 2018 02:20 PM PDT I have no experience with CS and want to move into this field. Where do I begin? Some background: 24 F BS in public health, 2016 2017-2018 in an MPH program. Learned how to program in R during this time. Not graduating -Should I consider going to school? (One year masters preferably, would consider online/hybrid. Or should I get a second BS?) -Should I learn on my own? If so, how do I facilitate this? -is there another option besides these that could work better? No one will even offer to interview me without experience, so I'm trying to find the best way to break into the field. Thanks in advance! [link] [comments]  |
| When should I start actually applying for programming jobs? Posted: 14 Oct 2018 05:52 PM PDT So I've been learning python in hopes of making a career change, and my question is: at what point am I "ready" to start applying for jobs? Is there any good way of measuring my own competence and therefore readiness to do this for a living? Also, what's a good way to search for opportunities in my area? I'm looking for something local, even if it pays less than what I might make if I move. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 14 Oct 2018 11:53 AM PDT I graduated about a year ago and have been working as a developer at a bank. When I was in school, I had an extremely hard time finding a job, and I got really lucky with my current job. Now that it's been a year, I've been searching for new opportunities, and it's been even harder than when I was in school. I'm starting to think that software isn't for me, and I won't ever be good at it (and it's hard to fake skills in interviews). I'm not sure what to do about my situation. I went to a decent school but was a pretty average probably below average student. I think I should've realized there that I was trying to do something I wasn't capable of. I used to believe that hard work/perseverance would get a person pretty far regardless of what circumstances they're in, but it's not working out for me despite how much I've been trying. I work full time and spend my hours after work/the weekend trying to do leetcode problems, but I feel like they don't get easier. And I keep failing interviews. I'm not really sure if there are people on this sub who can answer this, but for those who have quit as developers, how did you know to quit? What made you quit? What do you do now? [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 14 Oct 2018 02:05 PM PDT Does anyone have experience applying/working for international internships? There's one in Germany that I'd love to apply for because I visited the company last time I was there and thought it'd be interesting. So any tips/pointers on how to approach something being a non-citizen and where to go for resources on working in another country? [link] [comments]  |
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