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    Interview Discussion - June 28, 2018 CS Career Questions


    Interview Discussion - June 28, 2018

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 12:07 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to have discussions about interviews, interviewing, and interview prep. Posts focusing solely on interviews created outside of this thread will probably be removed.

    Abide by the rules, don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted each Monday and Thursday at midnight PST. Previous Interview Discussion threads can be found here.

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    Daily Chat Thread - June 28, 2018

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 12:07 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    If I've learned anything during my internship, it's this: The more work you do, the work you get.

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 12:39 PM PDT

    You think the boss thinks "Aww look at this cute employ working so hard, better ask him to relax and leave on time.", Naah son, they're like "Hey this person can do so much work! Better push him a bit more and he may be able to do more stuff, yay! Aye y'all, throw work at him! ".

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    Why do people respond to someone spending money as "we pay them too much"?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 05:12 AM PDT

    I've noticed this a lot throughout my career and was curious if anyone else notices this?

    I see that people who spend their money on nice cars, meals, watches, purses, shoes etc are critiqued by someone hirer or even lower makes a comment about how "I guess we pay them too much". Sometimes I see it as a joke but in my new position I really see it more and more.

    Why do people think they are paying people too much because they aren't struggling? I am in a higher level role but the VPs will make the comments about the Managers below them. These roles still involve high stress and a lot of responsibility, late nights etc. If dressing nice and having a nice car gives someone happiness and confidence to be able to handle their job then why say you pay them too much? If an entry level associate has nice clothes/shoes I see this same comment, that they are paid too much. They work hard at what they do and even harder to prove themselves not sure why this is said about them for rewarding themselves for their hard work.

    Just seems like if someone isn't struggling, these people see them as they are paid too much. As if you can't ask for a raise if you drive a nice car? Doesn't seem to matter if your responsibilities increase, if you are not struggling you should make the same?

    Was curious if anyone else has noticed this at all?

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    Are there any legal implications for being employed at a US-based cannabis startup?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 10:05 AM PDT

    Since marijuana is illegal at the federal level, is there inherently a legal risk for working for a marijuana/cannabis startup in a legalized state like California or Colorado?

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    How to move away from web development

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 11:05 AM PDT

    I just obtained a B.S in computer science, and I feel like I'm not sure how to do too much besides build a website, and I know that is not the field that I want to pursue. Two out of the four projects on my resume are web development projects, while another is a web scraper. I have had multiple recruiters tell me to take those off my resume and replace it with something companies want to see, preferably with something written in C/C++. I have done a bunch of coursework in C/C++ like rebuilding parts of the Pintos operating system and using the Huffman algorithm to compress files, but I'm not sure if I should be listing coursework as personal projects. I guess my question is what kind of projects can I do in C/C++ that could help me land an entry level job as a graduate with no internships or work experience? I also doubled majored in Economics if anyone thinks that I can use that to my advantage in the software industry.

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    Getting paid to sit and do nothing 80% of my day

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 12:03 PM PDT

    Is this what corporate life is like? I just started working as a "Junior Programmer." I'm working directly with a Lead Dev who is clearly swamped with work, a web designer, and an entry-level backend dev. Most of my day I sit around doing nothing, browsing reddit & playing music, where maybe once an hour I'll get a 5min task to complete by the lead dev. I'm thinking of changing jobs, but I'm afraid all jobs are going to be like this.

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    50 year old with a lot of experience having trouble getting callbacks

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 12:58 PM PDT

    I'm 50, and started programming over 25 years ago. Before the Internet was really a thing. I started college late after some time pursuing other things, then went back only to leave before my degree because I was getting a lot of good work in web development in the 90s.

    I contracted for a while, then I had a decent job for over 10 years, but that ended about 10 years ago. When I left I was in management, as high as I could go in the company. After that I went into contracting, and about a year ago, I started pursuing w-2 jobs again and had a remote one until getting laid off.

    I've been looking for months and have only gotten a couple of callbacks. I'm specifically looking for remote because there's not much around here, and I might be moving, so remote is my best option.

    So here's the thing. As we all know, early on, LAMP was considered "full stack". I only needed to know those four technologies and I could get a job or contract. However, as the web changed, work started drying up and I didn't take the hint and branch out until recently. I've been working with Python, as most of my work has been backend in PHP and that's going well. Frontend is a different story, as I transition from "just make it work and use jQuery" to the ecosystems that exist today.

    I guess my question is, am I wasting my time learning these things? Is a 50 year old who doesn't want to go back into management employable? And why do backend job ads tend to include things like react, angular, etc.? I'm learning them regardless, but I have about 4 months until unemployment runs out and really need to get a remote job soon.

    Any ideas or thoughts? I want to spend my time wisely.

    EDIT: I would like to add that in the early days of web development, computer science wasn't really a big part of it. Over the past couple of decades, I'm afraid my CS skills have diminished somewhat, as has my math. I don't know if I can resolve that in 4 months, so there are some jobs that are going to be simply out of my reach. However, I would gladly take a junior programming position to build my skills, but do people want a 50 year old junior programmer?

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    What is it that you want other people to know about you (as a programmer)?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 10:42 AM PDT

    (sorry I couldn't find a better way to phrase the questions)

    I've been interviewing for marketing positions that are developer-facing and I've been told several times that the hardest part about the job would be learning the "language" and culture of developers. "They don't like the spotlight, they don't like being bombarded with messages, people ignore them, people think they have no feelings" etc. In other words, conventional marketing strategies are ineffective on developers. Is any of this true? false (I definitely think the feelings things is false)? I would appreciate any perspective!

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    Is $20-25hr in SF worth it?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 08:54 AM PDT

    I have an offer for a Data Science internship at a company in an industry known for "passion pay" i.e. you take a pay cut since you're passionate about the work. Is $20-25hr a livable wage for say 3 months in the bay area?

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    Designer here: is hackerrank ever used for non-programmers?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 06:31 PM PDT

    I was told off-hand that I'd be sent a hackerrank test soon revolving around designing a landing page. I can whip up a landing page no problem, but I'm trying to prep myself, and it just seems like hackerrank isn't built to test for something like this?

    Should I simply expect that some other hackerrank-like service will be used, or is there a side of Hackerrank that I'm not seeing that is more applicable to designers, rather than programmers?

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    Is it normal to not be trained at a new job?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 01:16 PM PDT

    I started a new job and it's a manager role. I have one person beneath me. My boss is in another Country and has been out. I came in and am constantly asked questions from my report. I am new to the industry and being thrown into things. Is this normal at a manager level? I'm not someone that needs a ton of training and I don't need my hand held but I thought they'd at least walk me through a few things just to start. So far, I don't think I know what my job even is. Just wondering if others have been in same boat? There isn't exactly someone to go to, I've asked a few higher ups but no one has time and no one really knows for sure. Before I run and find a new job I am here for now, wondering if it's normal and I should be just figuring everything out myself? To be honest I'm not even sure what is expected of me to manage this person. During interview they said I wouldn't manager anyone then I find out through my report that I am managing him and when I asked that seems to be the case. Even my report has no clue what I am doing because it is so different from what she does, not even the same programs (supposedly). So far I've just sat at desk not even knowing what programs I'd need because no one has told me. Really seems like the company is wasting money to have me sit untrained to do nothing waiting. It takes hours for someone to respond to anything and never ends up telling me anything. Even coming in, I feel like if I didn't come in no one would notice (I wouldn't ever just not show up) but just making a point. I'm trying to figure it out on my own but other than making IT give me every program I may need I have no clue. Simplified question: is it normal to not be trained when you are in a higher position? Even if they want you to hit ground running is someone supposed to train you or at least tell you I task to do? Just curious if someone has had a job where no one even told them what they were doing? I feel like I could figure it out if they said, go "do X". But no one even saying "do X". Seems odd to me but figured I'd ask and see... 🤔

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    Advice for underqualified developer

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 12:39 PM PDT

    Hello,

    So I've been in a niche position for 5 years, and I've just completed my sixth year. I've made the transition from working in Drupal 7/PHP to Ruby on Rails, but I've come to realize that I'm just a terrible developer. I think that this might even be evidence of a learning disability, but that's for another post... I'm 31 and without a Computer Science degree (but interested in pursuing one). I'm self-taught and sincerely have enjoyed coding since my teens (just a terrible student, particularly at math).

    For my 5 years, I was in an extremely hostile, toxic environment where I and other colleagues were constantly abused while middle management was fawned over and rewarded for compulsively lying and insulting us as often as possible. Now that I'm in a position closer to the "real world", I'm just not capable of keeping up with my new colleagues. They're patient, but I'm just not growing quickly enough.

    As I'm watching more dishonesty and passive aggressive narcissism get repeated rewarded, is this just what I should really expect? Are developers typically pitted against this, or this is truly just ineptitude on my end and a sign that I should abandon the industry outright for something like a trade or vocational skill?

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    DevOps portfolio?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 05:31 PM PDT

    I was wondering if anybody had ever seen/compiled a portfolio specifically for a DevOps role. My background is mainly System Admin but I have CS degrees and I am looking to set myself up for future positions.

    I've seen plenty of portfolio examples for web development but I've never seen one for DevOps. Is it possible or even advisable to try to assemble something like this or do companies primarily look at years of experience and keyword matching to fill these roles? I know how jobs are filled on the operations side but I was wondering if DevOps are treated more like developers for hiring.

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    What's your plan of attack for a project?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 09:18 AM PDT

    Basically, title.

    If you're given a coding project, aka "create xyz using c++(or language of choice), it should do abc, should have bca" (poor example but you get the idea), how do you know where to begin? What to do?

    Do you write it out in pseudocode first, then begin outlining with functions / classes / etc that you'd need and flesh it out from there?

    Genuinely curious, as someone who struggles with this very thing.

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    How much salary to ask for, for an entry level software engineer position in San Diego,CA?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 09:12 AM PDT

    I know there is glassdoor and payscale but I feel like I still need to ask to be sure, I have been contacted by a company in San Diego, CA and they just asked basic screening questions in the email, one of which is my salary expectations (Which I don't like). How much should I ask for? I have only been living in one state my entire life and I know that the cost of living in California is so high. I have a less than 3.0 GPA and I don't consider myself to be smart, I typically ask for slightly less than average salary to make up for that, I do have one internship experience with a nuclear company though.

    Also, regarding the company that contacted me, it has many negative reviews on glassdoor, mainly on the interview process, in the email i am asked to choose Java or C++ to take a 1 hour assessment test on which they will decide whether I am qualified for an interview, all the reviews complain that the test is insanely hard and unfair, there was no information in the email about the test, they only mention that it is a C++ or Java test, how do you recommend me to prepare for it?

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    How often should I expect coding challenges for an entry level position?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 02:59 PM PDT

    And are they asked during the actual interview?

    I recently graduated and so far non of my interviews asked this, they ask technical questions and what not and how I would approach a certain problem but never had an actual coding challenge.

    I see many posts here talk about that (leetcode?), how does that work? Do they just give you a challenge during the interview and you have to code on the spot?

    The reason I'm asking is because if this is the case then I'm screwed, first of all I wouldn't consider myself a fast programmer, at all, I will be honest and say I'm very slow and everything takes me longer on average, and second which is the main problem is that I get extremely nervous during interviews, and I just cannot see myself thinking clearly and being able to successfully finish a coding challenge with 2 or 3 engineers looking at me on the table.

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    Does using time-tracking apps in workplace increase productivity and morale or decrease it?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 02:38 PM PDT

    Sure, it weeds out the slackers, but also puts a lot more stress on people already doing their job, because now their think if they take too long with something, they may be scrutinized and punished. But also on the other hand, it gives managers some ability to monitor the work being done in CS related jobs, since the time meassuring in those fields is kind of hard.

    But me personally, I am totally against it, because I believe workidone in IT cannot be measured by time spent, but by the quality of the end result. But unfortunately, some managers are too obssessed with cutting the amount of time spend on give task, that in the end costs more time, because rushed and buggy product is deployed

    What are your opinions?

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    Why do you like WFH so much?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 07:35 AM PDT

    I ask this question because I have been working for a month now strictly WFH and I am beginning to get fed up with being home for work and then after getting home from doing things after work. I was curious if this happened for anyone else and how you work around that?

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    How to make most of my first week of my first job?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 02:26 PM PDT

    I am going to join my first job in next week and I really like know how to make most from my initial time.

    Any advice on do's and dont's will be appreciated..

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    Do I need to know calculus before taking a class on Linear Algebra?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 08:12 PM PDT

    How important is it to know calculus before taking linear algebra? I have taken Calc I but I'm worried this won't be enough of a background to fully understand Linear Algebra. How much calculus is actually used in linear algebra?

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    I'm a data scientist at a start-up and I don't think there is signal in our data

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 07:37 AM PDT

    I've been working at a start-up whose goal is to generate insights into the latent ability of job applicants. This is a notoriously difficult problem, but the company has a novel approach. However, I've been there for over a year and exhausted nearly every technique to extract signal from the noise with little success. More data is expensive to collect, but possible and we'll be funded for at least a few more years.

    The perks of the company are nice and I like the people, but I've lost faith in the core product. A silver lining of this crisis is I have carte blanche to try anything to get this to work, so I've beefed up my understanding of more esoteric models. I also know that if I leave, I'll land on my feet.

    Has anyone been through a similar experience? What have you done when a critically important data science project fails?

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    Software Dev Intern asking boss about moving up in the company

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 08:03 PM PDT

    Currently a software developer intern at a mid-sized company. Right now I feel like im being ignored and dont really feel like part of any of the development teams. But as for the work they have me doing I'm basically on my own learning/developing an internal business application using ASP.NET MVC that another department requested, writing queries, and unit tests/practicing TDD, but nothing to do with production code of other products. It's sort of depressing with all this built up energy after graduating that im basically doing another college assignment.

    I was told when I was offered the intern position that and I quote "probably be hired full time after the internship" by the HR person who called me.

    I've had two other developer internships and dont really feel like I would have trouble finding another position elsewhere, but my question is would it be appropriate to ask my boss (director of development) on the likehood of becoming salary/exempt and fulltime? Is it more of a personal question or business question?

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    Love computers, don’t want to sit at desk..

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 10:09 AM PDT

    Is CS for me?? My life basically revolves around computers as it is, but I can't imagine myself sitting in a desk all day typing out code.. I like hands on stuff.. not saying I couldn't do any coding, but not looking to sit in an office day after day.. whatcha think?

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    Getting into programming with a non IT background

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 07:48 PM PDT

    I'm a 33 year old, currently in the commercial HVAC field (going on 8 years now), looking to switch career paths, possibly IT related, some kind of programming to be more specific. I took college classes (VB and C++) back in the early 2000s after I graduated high school and seemed to enjoy it, VB more so than C++. We had other students in the class who knew other languages and the instructor felt the need to cater the class to them and a lot of what we did was too fast paced for me. Anyways, my life took a different path for certain reasons and I havn't touched on anything IT related since.

    Having no IT background (at least for 15 years now), and at 33 years old, is it too late for me to try and get into programming? I know saying "programming" is pretty broad but there seems to be so many different avenues within it and I haven't exactly figured out what it is I'd want to get into, so I figured I'd ask this general question about it.

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    How difficult is it to get a US Govt. CS Job?

    Posted: 28 Jun 2018 09:51 AM PDT

    I'm a post office employee trying to turn my programming and tech background (New Media bachelors and CIS associates) into a more personally satisfying job. For those of you that have managed to score CS jobs with Uncle Sam, what was the interview process like? Would you consider your daily routine challenging?

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