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    Interview Discussion - June 04, 2018 CS Career Questions


    Interview Discussion - June 04, 2018

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 12:09 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to have discussions about interviews, interviewing, and interview prep. Posts focusing solely on interviews created outside of this thread will probably be removed.

    Abide by the rules, don't be a jerk.

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    Daily Chat Thread - June 04, 2018

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 12:09 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    Why do so many job posting flag themselves as "Entry level" and then require 3+ years of experience?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 02:02 PM PDT

    I am so demoralized right now I am ready to just lose it and bawl my eyes out.

    Entry level = 3 years of experience!?!?!? HOW? And this isn't a few postings, this is a lot of postings. Finding an entry level position that is ACTUALLY entry level (I read the entire posting which I should do, right?) is impossible!

    I am intentionally trying to filter out non-entry level positions and then their mandatory list is longer than the list of courses I've taken during a full degree!? Like why is this such a common thing?!

    I think I'm about to have a breakdown mentally. I am intentionally trying to filter entry level so I can find shit I can fit into with just barely under 2 years experience and all I get are these intermediate positions. A lot even say 5 years experience, one I just saw today even said EIGHT (8) YEARS!? And was flagged as entry level.

    I have crippling amounts of student loan debt, over a year of industry experience through an internship and a degree in compsci and am more than confident if any of these positions would let me work I'd do it.

    I just want to scream and cry.

    It feels like the more I try and the more I look and everything else the worse it looks.

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    Boss invites me to lunch along with assistant manager. This never happens. Am I getting fired?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 08:36 AM PDT

    My boss decided to invite me to lunch along with the assistant manager who also acts as a consultant for the company. I've had my differences with our boss, but have always exceeded sales quotas. They have never asked me out to lunch and they never ask anyone else out for lunch either. I am worried I am getting bad news. I am not expecting great news such as a raise or a promotion since the company has been quite reluctant to provide raises and in terms of increasing responsibilities, I am already managing major sales accounts for the company and can hardly see the upward movement there would be possible. Anyone ever been fired over lunch? What else could it be? Thanks in advance for your comments!

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    Why is ghosting becoming such a standard practice in this industry?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 04:22 PM PDT

    First, I'm defining ghosting as not sending any form of rejection to a candidate or even responding to their emails. However, I'm really only talking about the case where an interview or some other tangible interaction occurred - unless the application itself had some big hoops to jump through (ie custom reference letters or things above and beyond a typical application), it doesn't seem unreasonable to give radio silence to resume #82 on the trash stack.

    So my fiance asked me the other day if I ever heard back from the last company I interviewed with, and she was shocked when I told her no. She holds a director position at her job, so not only does she do hiring, she has employees that do hiring for things under her position. She explained that it would not only reflect poorly on her to her own bosses if she treated applicants that way, she would look poorly on her employees if they did the same - it is, after all, a simple two-click affair to send a pre-written rejection to candidates. And that lines up with pretty much every job experience I've had prior to entering the tech field.

    So really, what's up with that? And why is it so prevalent in this field, which ironically should have the most resources to automate a rejection notice?

    Here's my own top 3 list of agonizing ghostings, starting with that company I mentioned:

    • Company gave me three take-home coding problems to finish. My code was reviewed positively and I moved on to two separate panel interviews. Ghosted.

    • Company interviewed me four times. A phone interview followed by an in-person interview. They fired the manager who interviewed me, temporarily ghosted me. Weeks later, they called me back saying they thought I'd still be a good fit but I'd have to interview with a different team (because they fired the last one). Two more interviews, both were positive. Ghosted.

    • Company required an official transcript, reference letters written specifically for the company, and a full portfolio. Spoke with a recruiter and an employee. Ghosted. (My reference letter was from the head editor of a pretty prominent CS research publication. When I told him I was ghosted, he was pretty pissed that I had wasted his time with a rinky dink unprofessional company. I wish it was a rinky dink company.)

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    Those of you who work 40 hours: how much time outside of work do you commit to CS?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 09:12 AM PDT

    I'm a student graduating soon. I like CS but don't want my whole life to be about CS. I'd like to be able to commit real time outside of work to side-hustles and hobbies that I find more fulfilling.

    Can I do okay, as a young software engineer, putting in my fullest at work and very little at home?

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    Currently work in IT but I want to move into programming

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 07:48 AM PDT

    I got an AS in programming from a community college, but ended up getting an IT job. Four years later I think this was a mistake. I enjoy programming a lot more and IT is just frustrating.

    My programming skills are rusty af, but not completely gone. I was just wondering what you guys would recommend brushing up on (or learning) in order to get an internship or possibly a junior job. I've done some game programming recently (c#), but I'd say I'm most familiar with Java.

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    How Employable am I? Should I look for another job or go back to school or something?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 07:32 PM PDT

    I'm just hitting the market for a new Developer position. I am a Back End Dev with a year and about 4 months of experience. I have 0 doubt that I can write good code, I maintained our entire API alone for almost a year. But I've hit a few resume filters and I'm starting to wonder about some worst case scenarios.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincent-buscarello-0561651a/

    How long would you guess it would take me to pick up a new gig? If I can't at all, whats a good strategy to get connected enough to get one?

    LMK if this belongs somewhere else.

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    How many of the qualifications did you meet at your first and most recent job?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 04:14 PM PDT

    Looking at job postings a lot will list out qualifications including familiarity with various techs like Django or .net. Is it more important to know these specific techs, or to know how to learn about these specific techs?

    More generally, at both your first and most recent job, how many of the qualifications could you check off?

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    [OFFICIAL] Salary Sharing thread for INTERNS :: June, 2018

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 12:09 AM PDT

    MODNOTE: Some people like these threads, some people hate them. If you hate them, that's fine, but please don't get in the way of the people who find them useful. Thanks!

    This thread is for sharing recent internship offers you've gotten, new grad and experienced dev threads will be on Wednesday and Friday, respectively. Please only post an offer if you're including hard numbers, but feel free to use a throwaway account if you're concerned about anonymity. You can also genericize some of your answers (e.g. "Top 20 CS school" or "Regional Midwest state school").

    • School/Year:
    • Prior Experience:
    • Company/Industry:
    • Title:
    • Location:
    • Duration:
    • Salary:
    • Relocation/Housing Stipend:

    Note that while the primary purpose of these threads is obviously to share compensation info, discussion is also encouraged.

    The format here is slightly unusual, so please make sure to post under the appropriate top-level thread, which are: US [High/Medium/Low] CoL, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Latin America, ANZC, Asia, or Other.

    If you don't work in the US, you can ignore the rest of this post. To determine cost of living buckets, I used this site: http://www.bestplaces.net/

    If the principal city of your metro is not in the reference list below, go to bestplaces, type in the name of the principal city (or city where you work in if there's no such thing), and then click "Cost of Living" in the left sidebar. The buckets are based on the Overall number: [Low: < 100], [Medium: >= 100, < 150], [High: >= 150].

    High CoL: NYC, LA, DC, SF Bay Area, Seattle, Boston, San Diego

    Medium CoL: Chicago, Houston, Miami, Atlanta, Riverside, Minneapolis, Denver, Portland, Sacramento, Las Vegas, Austin, Raleigh

    Low CoL: Dallas, Phoenix, Philadelphia, Detroit, Tampa, St. Louis, Baltimore, Charlotte, Orlando, San Antonio, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Kansas City

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    Need someone to take a look at my plans on becoming a fullstack developer.

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 03:42 PM PDT

    Hi, I am looking to become a fullstack web developer in the future who mainly uses React and Redux for frontend and Node for backend (along with other related technologies such as Express, GraphQL etc). Plus im eyeing to become proficient in using MySQL and related rdbms related technologies before I learn cloud computing. Currently im using courses from udemy, lynda, pluralsight etc and doing challenges on "freecodecamp.org" to prepare myself for creating multiple web applications of my own so I could get some sort of experience and use it to entice employers perhaps.

    I feel im still quite naive and in a rush so id like your thoughts if anything ive said so far contains any flaws and if I need to do anything else before I try to look for jobs or work freelance first. Im quite motivated but I still feel like i know far too less on what i need to know if I am to become a fullstack developer despite the many job requirements ive read through.

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    PhD for research career in industry?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 07:22 PM PDT

    I'm in my first job out of college. I definitely super lucked out with my first job - I work for a small company that does DARPA contracts, and get to work on super cool advanced research projects (mostly related to machine learning, as I did relevant research in college).

    As an ambitious person, I'd like to someday advance and be a leader in the field (and run my own research company, R&D division, or something similar). Will I need to get a PhD to be seen as credible on the research end of things? Or will not having a PhD penalize me in 10-15 years? Mostly concerned with the credibility bit since I feel like many of the "skill-learning" aspects of my current job are pretty similar to those of a graduate student (reading papers, attending talks, writing code, writing proposals, writing papers, etc.)

    I don't want to work in academy, I'm pretty sure.

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    When a company acquires another company for money, who gets the money?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 07:44 AM PDT

    Microsoft announced his morning that they are acquiring GitHub for $7.5billion. I was wondering typically when an acquisition like this happens, who gets the money? Do all GitHub employees get a certain percentage of the 7.5 billion based on how much equity they have?

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    What kind of project management do you guys use?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 06:27 PM PDT

    So I think like scrum masters are all and all a huge waste of time. I want to keep my team developing but also want to follow some kind of good process for PM. Any suggestions?

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    What projects (personal or at work) are you currently working on?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 06:19 PM PDT

    Not sure what my career pace should be

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 06:15 PM PDT

    TLDR: I've been told it's too early for me to get promoted regardless of how I'm preforming. Should I wait the time they tell me or change jobs? Is this "set time period for promotion" normal in a large enterprise?

    I've been in an entry developer role for about 1.5 years now. I graduated from college with a CS degree and have been steadily contributing more and more to the team and company.

    I've reached a point where I find that I know more than some intermediate developers, contribute more than most entry developers, in the company, and have some very deep specialist knowledge on certain topics. I'm feeling overworked and underpaid (aren't we all) and have had several other managers ask me to join their team as an intermediate dev.

    I love my manager and realize they're one of the better managers in the company so I sat down with them to get a picture of how I'm progressing towards intermediate developer. I expressed I had opportunities to advance but passed on them to stay with the manager, in hopes I would eventually get promoted and be able to stay on the same team.

    The answer I got was that no one is ever promoted to intermediate dev before 2 years at the earliest and that they are trying to protect me so when I do get promoted I'll be competitive with others in my position.

    This is eating away at me in the sense that I feel ready to advance. I have most of the responsibilities of an intermediate dev due to a lot of recent turn over on the team. At the same time I like my manager and trust them so maybe my manager is protecting me and I'm just being cocky. I'm not sure if this is a normal thing for a large enterprise and how devs handle this. Should I get in line and wait my 2+ years or start looking for other jobs?

    Thanks for reading and any responses, know it's a long post.

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    Software Engineering student

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 06:02 AM PDT

    I'm a junior at a UC. I tried applying to software internships, and no luck. The only offers I'm getting are from non-related jobs like help desk jobs. Since I have no prior experience, should I accept a non-related job offer to gain work experience as an alternative for right now? Any recommendations to break in the industry so I won't have a hard time out of college?

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    Right way to a whiteboard

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 06:36 AM PDT

    I am trying to get better at technical interviews. I am only 4 years into my career but have had very few technical interview success. They ask very basic coding problems that I interpret as very simple but I feel like they are trick questions.

    I have been given simple questions like: separate user input based on even or odd numbers. Anything odd print out the letter O and anything even print the number.

    My question is how should this be done to impress the employer? I just answered the question iteratively and the answer was correct but they said not what they were looking for.

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    Tips for getting started with a Java job

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 01:14 PM PDT

    I have been at the same company for the past two years. I started off in support but moved to QA/Automation Testing pretty quickly. It has been a nice and steady job, but I have not really developed many transferable skills here. We write our test scripts using in-house tools, so I've become very knowledgeable with our suites and products, but developed no additional knowledge about "real" programming that i can use outsode the walls of my company.

    In about two months, I am moving to a new country for life reasons. I have a decent bit of experience programming in Java. I taught myself Java about 4 years ago, and then proceeded to minor in CS (I was a math major). I used to really enjoy programming in Java on my own time, but I stopped once I began working full time.

    I'd like to start programming again, and since I'm moving, I feel like I have a chance to change my direction a bit. What is a good way for someone in QA to move into Java development? I wouldn't mind staying in QA at first, provided that I find a job where Id get to write real code instead of just using in-house tools. Any advice?

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    How long to wait before following up on counter-offer?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 09:12 AM PDT

    I received an offer for a position that was a little lower than I was looking for. How long would you wait/suggest waiting before following up on the counter-offer request? HR acknowledged my request for a higher salary so I know they got the email. This happened Friday morning.

    Thanks

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    What books to read to advance my career?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 10:36 AM PDT

    Currently I'll be doing an internship starting next week.
    I wanted a list of books to read through the summer to advance my career and become a better software engineer.
    I Would appreciate if the books aren't technology specific.

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    A company asks to pay for all the travel expenses

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 10:08 AM PDT

    I got an internship offer from a company in EU about a month ago. They said that they will cover all my visa and travel expenses. They have been very slow and uninterested in answering my emails after that. Today I got an email today saying that in order for me to be on time I need to buy all the tickets and book a hotel for a month (in order to get this damn visa) by myself. I have the money but should I even bother with them now? I am losing the only internship I have for this summer but now I lost all desire to work for them anyway. P.S. Sorry for the messy post. Just want to know what you guys think about it. Thanks.

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    Been a software engineer/ tester/ production engineer for 4+ years now in Chicago. Thinking of going back to school and hoping for some advice.

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 07:55 AM PDT

    Hi,

    I graduated with an Economics degree from a Big 10 school in 2012, and since then I having been steadily taking on more and more technical roles in IT, mostly at a no-name healthcare software company in Chicago. I started off as a business analyst, then spent two years being an on call production engineer, writing stored procedures, powershell scripts, and troubleshooting ETLs in the SQL layer of my company's application. From there, I spent a year being an automation QA before being finally promoted up to a regular software engineer. I just landed a second job as a SWE at another company in Chicago, so I'm pretty happy I've now been able to land two software engineering roles, especially without a degree in the field.

    I've always enjoyed the big puzzle that computer science is and generally love problem solving and patterns. However, given that I don't have a degree in the field I always feel like I lack a fundamental set of knowledge that would help me be a better developer. I have always loved school. Given, my experience, do you think it is possible to get conditionally accepted to an MSCS program? Online or otherwise? Is it advisable? I think it would help in the future be qualified to move into a more architect/ senior position.

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    Currently a Civil Engineer and want to work with Connected/Autonomous Vehicles

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 07:46 PM PDT

    Hi yall, first time in this sub and first time posting.

    Main Question: If I want to work with connected/autonomous vehicles, what kind of computer languages and/or schooling is necessary in that industry?

    Background: I have a BS in Civil Engineering and have been in the field for 2 years now. I currently have my FE/EIT certification and plan to get my PE as soon as I can. I've been working mostly in traffic and transportation engineering first at a private firm and now at a city. I know that I want to move to connected/autonomous vehicles eventually and could bring a lot to the table as a transportation engineer. I just don't know how to do so. I've had some exposure to coding. I took a C++ class in college and have used some Python as needed in the field with GIS.

    Since I don't have any connections into the autonomous vehicle industry (and haven't found a whole lot online yet), I was wondering if yall know what computing languages are used? Would getting an MS in Computer Science or Computer Engineering be necessary? Am I better off just learning on my own, building a portfolio, and approaching companies when I'm "ready"?

    Any info and insight is greatly appreciated. Cheers!

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    company prestige question

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 07:44 PM PDT

    Hey guys, just curious, two questions:

    1) What Non-Big N companies are considered good resume boosters?

    2) Do Big N companies and their prestige matter OUTSIDE of the Tech industry (like in pure Finance, Entertainment, Economics)? i.e. Does having SWE at Google on your resume matter to an applicant applying for a Filmmaking position at Warner Brothers?

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    Help me...

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 07:23 PM PDT

    I just got an accepted interview email from an employer. However, I don't even remember that job title. ( i just randomly sent my resume to all jobs and internships related to my field) What should I do now? Would it be weird if I ask them what job it is? I just looked on their website and there's no more recruitment post...

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    Aspiring Front End Dev that just got laid off - advice?

    Posted: 04 Jun 2018 07:22 PM PDT

    Hi, I'm a bit shaken up right now. I just got laid off for the first time from my first job out of college, and I feel so lost. I thought I'd ask for some advice in terms of what direction I should go to achieve my career goal of becoming a front end dev.

    For context, I'm in LA, I'm F/24, and I graduated a year ago with a 4.0 from a UC with a triple major and minor but none of them had to do with CS... I used to work as a graphic designer.

    The position I just got laid off from was titled Content Specialist - I maintained big fashion-brand websites for an agency (using Magento, Shopify, and Orchard CMS) and also designed a load of landing pages using Bootstrap and HTML5/CSS3. Before my lay off I was getting into JavaScript and Jquery, but I don't have much from my work that demonstrates my skills in that area.

    My question is - am I still too much of a novice (not much JavaScript experience) to apply to Jr Front End jobs? Should I stick to Content Management while refining my skills? Also, what can I do during this period to become a stronger candidate for an entry-level Junior Front End Dev position?

    TDLR; Got laid off, portfolio shows heavy work withHTML/CSS but little Javascript, not sure if I'm eligible enough to start applying for Jr Front End Dev jobs instead of staying in CMS management at this moment.

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