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    April 08, 2018

    Big 4 Discussion - April 08, 2018 CS Career Questions

    Big 4 Discussion - April 08, 2018

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 12:07 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to have discussions about the Big 4 and questions related to the Big 4, such as which one offers the best doggy benefits, or how many companies are in the Big 4 really? Posts focusing solely on Big 4 created outside of this thread will probably be removed.

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    Daily Chat Thread - April 08, 2018

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 12:07 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    CS grad struggling with social anxiety/depression

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 05:21 AM PDT

    I have been struggling with my social anxiety and low self-esteem for most of my life, and it came to an crippling head right after I gratuated with my CS degree. Without the structure of my college, I ended up isolated from my friends and colleagues and struggled to get any internships and jobs in the field, only having my part-time receptionist job to fall on to keep me from being a NEET and I felt like a failure for not having any motivation to build my portfolio and get a job despite being once considered "The Golden Egg" from my family and friends.

    For over 2 years since graduating, I've been saving up to enter a developer bootcamp program like Hack Reactor to supplement my degree and give me structure in developing my experience in software engineering and getting a good job on the field. I still struggle with my illnesses, so I believe that is the best chance I have of motivating myself to build a strong porfolio/ resume and getting my dream job through the bootcamp's connections, resources, and mentors.

    Has anybody been in a similar situation or has struggled with mental illness while trying to get a career in cs?

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    Is it a petty reason to move to Seattle from Austin because of the weather?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 10:11 AM PDT

    Austin seems like the place I should stay and work at, primarily for the cheap cost of living and the fact that I've already lived here my whole life. But holy shit, I cannot deal with the weather here. It's like a 50/50 chance every day of either having my skin burned off or my ass frozen off. Seattle's nice rainy climate seems like a dream in comparison, but I'm not too sure if that's a good enough reason to just jump ship and move there.

    Primarily I guess my real question is this: If my goal is starting a family, funded by a career in CS, then is moving to Seattle purely for the nice weather and abandoning Austin a bad idea?

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    When an employeer asks if I have any questions, what are some good ones that I can ask?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 12:09 PM PDT

    This has probably been posted before(?) But I tried using the reddit search function in here but didn't really get any relevant results :/

    I have a job interview coming up as a backend Java developer and I am completely lost at what kind of questions I should be asking them about the company. All I have been able to come up with myself are some basic ones "What will my first week look like?" and "How does a typical workday usually play out at your company?"

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    Starting my career tomorrow. Tips for success?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 01:29 PM PDT

    Tomorrow I begin my career as a junior software engineer after just graduating university. Experienced engineers - what are some things I should keep in mind if I want to be most successful and have a positive impact overall?

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    What are my options as a new graduate if I "miss the boat" on the new graduate hiring cycle?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 04:58 PM PDT

    I graduated in December with a CS degree without a job lined up, and in retrospect I don't think I was concerned enough with the job search process at the time. I figured I was graduating early and didn't have any debt, so I'd take some time to travel and come back after I was ready to find a job. While I was abroad I wasn't really able to enjoy myself and found the stress and uncertainty of my job prospects back home made it impossible for me to focus on the things around me, so I headed home early and started applying for new graduate jobs.

    It's been a few months now that I'm back in the US, and I've sent out around 5-10 applications a day since mid February (probably around 400 in total by now), and none of them have resulted in offers. I'm starting to really freak out. New graduate recruiting is an inherently seasonal thing because people only graduate in a few different months of the year, and if I don't find a job by the time spring graduation rolls around, I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do after that. I'll be a year out of college by the time people start hiring new graduates for the next cycle. I can't even find a job while I'm a new graduate, so my prospects as an old graduate with no employment history feels incredibly bleak. It feels like the damage I've done to my career is irreversible and I just don't know what to do to make myself hireable, because clearly nothing I've done is working. Every day it seems more and more like I'm not going to find employment in the 2018 new graduate cycle, so I'm turning to this sub to try to get a better sense of what happens and what the best choices are after missing the boat as a graduate. What can I do to salvage my career once I'm no longer a new graduate?

    Edit: Resume, as requested

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    Ways to bring in money while looking for first CS job after graduation?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 01:59 PM PDT

    The past couple of months have been a sheer panic for me, as my post history here indicates. I'm at the end of my rope and now at the end of my money and have no idea what to do.

    I've been working more than full time, 50-60+ hours per week, looking for work and trying to keep my skills from atrophying. I'm now teaching myself Java, because my school didn't offer it as a class in my final semester. Long story short, I'm busy.

    What has me scared is... I throw myself into my jobs. I tend to get locked into them and they dominate my life. So if I try to get a disposable retail job to make some money, it will take me over and my "real" job search will suffer. On top of this, working with the public burns me out more than you can imagine. I get home and I just want to die... I did it for 15 years and all it gave me was a stress-induced heart attack.

    I have enough money to MAYBE last me until the end of May. After that, I'm broke. Loans are out of the question because my credit is shot. I'm beyond depressed and can't afford therapy or anything. I'm scared that I'm not going to find a job and that my life is just going to spiral back to what I was before.

    Does anybody have any suggestions as to how to bring in even a small amount of money in a way that won't harm my job search? I'm living with family who are getting pissed at me because I'm not working yet (even though I'm paying rent... for now), and my car is on its last leg, in dire need of repairs. I really need help here. :(

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    What are your side gigs/ passive income?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 11:19 AM PDT

    I've been interested in different avenues of passive income and was wondering if most people in the industry had side gigs or businesses on the side to make money on the side, different from their main jobs

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    Should I drop out of computer science and switch majors?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 04:20 PM PDT

    I just want to say that I think programming is amazing and I would really love to learn it, but it kinda seems impossible. Im really behind in my Comp class and I'm struggling with the coding projects that we are given. All my other classmates are working together to try and get each project done with ease, while I can't even help because I don't even understand what i'm doing. Ive fallen behind in the textbook reading because sometimes its just so hard to understand and it takes a while for me to grasp the main ideas. The main question I have is: Do you have to be naturally intelligent to understand how to code? I just feel like i'm not smart enough to understand this stuff, but I really want to be able to program. I'm just so behind and don't think ill ever catch up to my classmates because this stuff takes a while for me to understand. Also, my professor is almost impossible to follow. He obviously knows A LOT about java, but isn't very good at explaining and his voice is so monotone it hurts. Even though being a software developer sounds like my dream job, should I just go for something that would be easier to understand? Anyone have advice for learning the material?

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    Job Market for Actuary > Software Engineer

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 06:08 PM PDT

    I'm currently an actuary w/ 4 years of work experience and no coding experience (although I know VBA, SQL and R pretty well) potentially looking at being a software engineer. I would probably enroll in a bootcamp (looking at Hack Reactor) or use MOOC's (EdX and Coursera) to get up to speed. I enjoy my job but am bored of my industry and interested in pursuing a job in tech (it looks so dynamic and fun!). However, as I am currently making significantly more than an entry level software engineer and have a pretty relaxed job, I would probably only switch over if I got an offer from one of the big 4 companies (Thinking Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft) or comparable company (Uber, Palantir, etc.).

    I have a degree in math and an a fellow of the society of actuaries (I've passed all of the actuarial exams); I also worked in management consulting for a bit as my first job out of college. So I think that I would have above average communication and analytical skills relative to other entry level software engineers, but just no technical (coding) experience apart from the bootcamp/MOOC.

    Is this a reasonable pursuit / expectation? Are there any other positions I should be looking at if I am interested in a job in Tech?

    Thanks!

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    Recruiter never gave me offer?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 02:06 PM PDT

    I interviewed at a top 10 and was told I got the job, received an email "Congrats etc blah blah we just need these details for you and in 2 weeks max we will send you an offer to sign". Its now been 2.5 weeks and still no word. Do I ask about the status right now? or should I wait another week? I really dont want to let this opportunity slip. Thanks

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    How are the big accounting firms viewed in the industry?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 12:55 PM PDT

    I received an offer to work as an intern in PricewaterhouseCoopers' software engineering innovation group. I know/think PwC is seen as pretty prestigious in the accounting world, but how is it viewed in the tech industry? Would having PwC on my resume be seen as "prestigious" in trying to land software development jobs later and perhaps help me get a higher response rate to applications?

    Also does anyone have any experience doing software engineering for PwC or any accounting firms and can give me some ideas as to what I can expect?

    I have another offer at a much much smaller company whose main product is software. They pay less but I'm wondering if it might be better to work for a more software oriented company. Do you think it's a bad idea to take an internship at PwC over this other company? PwC described their software group as basically a smaller company within PwC that is focused on software, but I'm a little hesitant because of the unorthodoxy of the situation.

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    Looking for advice, non-traditional background

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 04:39 PM PDT

    I graduated in 2014 with a B.S in hospitality and tourism management, by the time I graduated I already knew it wasn't a good fit but it was too late for me to change my major again. I spent a year being an idiot, not sure what I wanted to do, I was learning coding on my own and applying to hotels. I never got a job at a hotel, but I did enroll in a coding bootcamp. I learned ALOT, but ultimately I was unhireable and they didn't allow me to "graduate". I spent another year being depressed about my failure, driving for uber, trying to work on portfolio projects, and being yelled at by my parents for doing nothing with my life. Finally last year I decided to re-enroll in school part time. So far I've completed 5 classes with A's and im taking two right now, (but I doubt I'll get A's in these) as well as an unpaid internship with a non-profit. My time is divided into helping my family's small buisness, going to school for 2 classes, and spending 16 hours a week on my internship. I need to move on with my life and I feel like i'm running out of time, What can I do to get a job as a web developer as soon as possible? I don't want to spend more time in school if I don't have to. Should I try to get a paid internship next? should I stay with my internship for 6 months (through the summer) and then apply to jobs like crazy(this is what I'm leaning towards), or should I just start applying to jobs now? I really need some advice I've been struggling for so long.

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    Strategies for securing an out of state position?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 02:28 PM PDT

    What are your strategies for searching for jobs in an out of state city different from the one where you graduated and currently live? I am using resources such as LinkedIn and indeed, as well as my school's career website. Also, I try to do as many problems in CTCI to prepare for interviews. Basically my search involves typing software engineer and filtering by entry level jobs. However, I notice that the filter may be flawed, because other "mid-level" and "senior" positions for various companies have the same requirements as "entry-level" in the qualification descriptions. Do you think there's anything I should be doing differently? Thanks in advance!

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    Got an internship, then left school for leave of absence. Should I tell my recruiter?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 01:34 PM PDT

    So near the beginning of fall semester I got an internship that I am pretty happy with and am looking forward to. However, during the spring semester I hit some unhappy bumps (so it goes, I suppose) and was strongly suggested to take a leave of absence and have since been at home recovering / etc.

    Somehow when I was signing with the company last fall, I signed for my end date to be like 2 days before my academic school year starts. At the time I was fine with that but now with the leave of absence and all I want more time to figure things out for myself, get some "returning to school" paperwork done, etc. before diving right into the hell of school again.

    Anyway I'm trying to explain my position to my recruiter but I'm not sure how much I should tell her. Is it a bad idea to tell her I've taken a leave of absence (i.e., I have completed less CS classes than they expected me to have)? On one hand it could make a case for me but on the other I'm paranoid she'll suddenly be like "you are no longer qualified for this internship program bye" lol...

    I feel like it's not going to be that big of a deal but also idk how companies/recruiters take these kinds of things.

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    Are there companies still hiring new grads?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 05:08 PM PDT

    I graduated end of December 2017 and took a few months off after 4 years of school and 3 internships. Now I am ready to begin searching for a new graduate position, but I'm struggling to find companies that are still hiring.

    Even looking on LinkedIn, I don't see many companies still hiring new grads. Where do I look?

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    Please tell me that group projects get better after college

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 08:04 PM PDT

    Am working on a group project at a Top 60 CS school in the US, and am getting pretty irritated (not the first time). Too many people just don't try. Failure is fine, but there is just a general lack of effort and then all this work gets dumped onto me. And it's not even the grade that is motivating me; rather, I just want to do a good job for its own sake. Yeah, there are consequences for students who don't pull their weight but that doesn't make my job any easier to salvage the project.

    Honestly though, I think the most frustrating part is the lack of communication. On the Slack, I'll post updates (maybe twice a week so not that frequent) on what I'm doing and ask for feedback and how others are doing...and get complete silence for days until I actually get to see them in person in class. People just disappear. If someone said, "Hey, I'm overloaded in other classes so I can't do shit on this project for this week," that is actually not irritating at all (provided this isn't a pattern) and I can even sympathize. Hell, if someone said, "I'm really depressed and fucking hate this project and therefore don't want to touch this shit for the rest of my life," even THAT is some form of feedback.

    Yeah yeah, I know about how to draw others out and all that jazz but quite frankly, it gets tiring having to hold peoples' hands and babysit people over and over again.

    Again, I repeat...it's not failure that is so annoying, it's the complete lack of effort and lack of communication and just randomly disappearing from the project without a sound or trace.

    I'd like to believe that at a "Big 4" or even at a reputable non-tech company where there is SOME barrier to entry that this kind of stuff is a hell of a lot less frequent. Or you can make fun of me for being so naive and yet another clueless student on this sub. Fire away.

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    What is Advertisement analytics ?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 07:57 PM PDT

    Hey guys Anybody here ever worked with targeted advertisements or advertisement analysis

    Something like AdSense or inmobi

    What is the work and technology like

    What are the related theoretical concepts, algorithmsor data structures ??

    Maybe I am using the correct words but I want know more the advertisement sub-field of IT

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    Should I include my military service even if it had nothing@ to do with cs?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 07:55 PM PDT

    Hey guys, I've been separated for about a year now and I'm starting to look around for internships and potential entry level positions.

    My question is I was a 35F(Intel. Analyst) before I got out for about 4 and a half years, should I include it in my professional experience?

    Thanks for the help!

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    Career help - embedded software engineer

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 07:45 PM PDT

    Hello! This is my first post in this subreddit, and I'm looking for some advice for my future career. I live in the Southeastern part of the US, and I'm going through a career change. I was previously a financial analyst, and I'm trying to transition to becoming an embedded software engineer. I have already taken my gen eds at a community college before I transfer to a four-year university. My issue is this: I have a low gpa from my previous undergrad (2.3) that will be following me to the college I plan to transfer to. I have made all A's at the community college, but I'm worried it will prevent me from obtaining an embedded software job. It seems like the majority of the job postings I've seen will only accept embedded software engineers with a cumulative gpa of a 3.0. I'd like to know if anyone on here has gotten an embedded software job with a sub 3.0 cumulative gpa before? I'd like to enter the new college as a computer engineer, however I may change to computer science if embedded seems like an unlikely career path. Yes, I do realize there is a big difference between embedded software vs higher level software. Embedded just interests me more. Thank you all so much for any information you provide!! I'll be in the Orlando area if that helps with responses.

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    Preparing for Summer 2019 Recruiting

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 12:54 AM PDT

    I'm currently a first year who's trying to figure out how to best plan my summer to have a solid chance at internships in Summer 2019. I've taken Intro Computer Science (OOP, tree traversals, basic runtime analysis, all in Python) and Intro Discrete Math for Computer Science (basic number theory proofs, runtime analysis proofs, big-O/big-Omega/big-Theta proofs). This summer I'll be taking Software Design (Design patterns, unittesting, refactoring, regex, all in Java) and Intro Theory of Computation (More algorithm proofs, automata) as a part time student. I don't get to take Data Structures or Algorithms until Fall/Winter 2018 at earliest.

    What should I focus on in my free time? I'm really interesting in machine learning and I know most of the necessary math to get started (linear algebra, basic probability and statistics, basic multivariable calculus) so I was thinking of working through the Andrew Ng courses so that I can make some sort of project by the end of the summer. Should I do CTCI/Leetcode instead? I'd much rather do the former but I don't want to fail interviews either.

    I haven't had any past relevant internships if that matters.

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    Does anyone have experience with the Oracle Class of 2018 Solution Engineer position?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 07:31 PM PDT

    Got an offer for this position and I'll more than likely roll with it as it's the best thing to come my way and seems like a good fit. So I'm hoping someone can (hopefully) give some insight on it.

    1. What percentage of the job is coding vs sales? Or does it depend on what specific area you go into?

    2. How is the culture of the company and the sector you're in?

    3. Any tips for preparation until the start date?

    4. And any other helpful advice that you may have in general.

    Thanks!

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    Freshmen here, how good at programming should I be before applying to internships?

    Posted: 07 Apr 2018 09:38 PM PDT

    I'm a freshmen and while I'm decent at programming (mainly Java) I don't think my education is enough to the point where I can actively help in any major tasks. How much should I know before applying at an internship and what kinds of tasks would be expected of me?

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    Future Development Positions

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 07:18 PM PDT

    Has anyone ever accepted a job that paid "too much" for their area/experience (remote worker or just a great opportunity)? Was there any challenge finding a job afterwards or moving upwards in their career? I have a few remote offers that pay more than what my area's typical salary is for my level of experience and job title. I want to be able to weigh my options and see if anybody else has had a similar experience. Thanks!

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    How to get in contact with recruiters in a city that I'm not yet in?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 12:26 PM PDT

    How can I manage to get in contact with good recruiters in a city I'm not in? I'm currently living in Europe (am a US citizen so visa won't be an issue) and planning to move to NYC in a month and a half and want to get started on my job search before I get there. I constantly get messaged by local recruiters here in Europe but I changed my linkedin location to NYC last week and still haven't gotten anything.

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    Can I make it in a major US city with what I have in Canada?

    Posted: 08 Apr 2018 12:04 PM PDT

    I was born in the US, Chicago specifically, but these days I'm located in Ontario, Canada (my family moved when I was 10). I hold an Ontario College Diploma (a 2 year program) in Computer Programming. I completed an 8 month co-op at a private, global company where I learned a ton, and I want to move to the US.

    My first choice would be Chicago as I have some family there, but I'm open to other cities, especially New York, LA, and SF.

    The only thing that scares me is the idea that I won't find work with the small amount of education I have. Could I make it? Should I consider doing a Dev Boot Camp to gain more relevant experience/education and networking?

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