Big 4 Discussion - December 10, 2017 CS Career Questions |
- Big 4 Discussion - December 10, 2017
- Daily Chat Thread - December 10, 2017
- Defense industry career killer?
- I don't want to program for more than 10 years after I graduate. What are my options and how do I get there?
- [Advice] Community College students: Apply to the DOE's internship program
- Those of you who heard back from BigN/unicorns for internships, what do your stats look like on paper?
- Now job offer - hung up on title (demotion) - weird?
- How can I differentiate myself if I keep getting rejected?
- Applying while working
- Goldman Sachs rejected after Hirevue
- Do internship experience count as real world experience when job description asks for x years of exp?
- Why are lots of people saying they didn't get a summer internship already?
- I got PIP'd and I wish to turn it around. Having a hard time knowing who to trust.
- Feel like I made a mistake
- Leaving recently joined company
- CS and Business
- Best way to transition out of government?
- Are side projects really necessary?
- People that have to do on call rotations, what is your salary during on calls?
- I've had three bad bugs go into production since joining. I feel awful. How bad is this?
- Dropbox Hackerrank
- How many of you still remember CS foundations (Data structure & Algos) after being employed for a while?
- How to leverage your alumni network?
- Is it time to start looking for my second job?
- Entry Dev Job Asia Region
- How to do Keyword Searches like "University Recruiter @ X" through LinkedIn Mobile App?
- Goldman Sachs Offer
| Big 4 Discussion - December 10, 2017 Posted: 09 Dec 2017 11:07 PM PST Please use this thread to have discussions about the Big 4 and questions related to the Big 4, such as which one offers the best doggy benefits, or how many companies are in the Big 4 really? Posts focusing solely on Big 4 created outside of this thread will probably be removed. Abide by the rules, don't be a jerk. This thread is posted each Sunday and Wednesday at midnight PST. Previous Big 4 Discussion threads can be found here. [link] [comments]  |
| Daily Chat Thread - December 10, 2017 Posted: 09 Dec 2017 11:07 PM PST Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk. This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here. [link] [comments]  |
| Defense industry career killer? Posted: 10 Dec 2017 09:34 AM PST I've recently heard that the defense industry is kind of a dead end trap for programmers but the idea wasn't elaborated on. Does anyone have any insight on this? I'm still very young so if staying too long is bad for my career, I'm going to start thinking about alternatives. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 10 Dec 2017 02:15 PM PST I'm still an university student but have had a couple coops as a software developer. While I don't hate it, in fact I do enjoy some aspects of programming, I don't think I can do it for the rest of my life. I've got fairly good social skills and feel that I excel in problem solving and the lateral thinking aspect of CS. I'm concerned that if I go the product/project management route I won't be honing any tangible skills and thus will have a lower job security. What other possible career paths are there that doesn't require programming 5+ hours a day but still lives in the technical realm? [link] [comments]  |
| [Advice] Community College students: Apply to the DOE's internship program Posted: 10 Dec 2017 06:12 PM PST I was previously asked to write a guide to life as a CC comp sci student. Not sure when I'll have time, but I wanted to drop this advice for now: If you don't have a summer internship yet, apply to the Department Of Energy's Community College Internship program. The program accepts interns year-round, but the deadline to apply for summer is in one month (January 12th). To apply, you'll need 2 Letters of Recommendation and a personal statement so get started. The program is paid and provides housing (or a housing stipend).
It can be pretty hard finding internships as a CC student, so the opportunity to spend your summer interning at some of the most prestigious laboratories in the world is a good one. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 10 Dec 2017 05:04 PM PST So I ended up not hearing back from any "prestigious" companies, but did end up securing an internship. Hopefully, with 8 months to prepare until the next application period and an internship under my belt, I'll have a better chance of hearing back. I kind of wanted to see examples of "stats on paper" for people who had the opportunity to prove themselves to these companies and what they look for. Can anyone share their anecdotal experiences/stats as a data point? [link] [comments]  |
| Now job offer - hung up on title (demotion) - weird? Posted: 10 Dec 2017 09:33 AM PST Web dev with 5.5 years exp. Current position is "Sr. Developer." Been interviewing with a brand name company much larger than my current. I went through multiple interviews for the sr. role. All went well, nice offer came through, but I feel thrown for a curve ball here as the offer is technically mid level. Was told the general consensus was that I'm not quite senior level. I know each org has a different definition (for better or worse) on what this means. I stalked some "senior" staff on linkedin and most of their creds align with mine, so I'm kind of confused there. Likewise, I looked into some "mid" level devs and their situation clearly leans towards the jr. end of things e.g. first job out or college w/ 0-1 yrs. And the kicker - the job description itself for the sr. role clearly states "5 yrs of exp" Has this or similar happened to anyone? Any way to negotiate this? Am I overthinking the situation? Red flag? Feels kind of crappy and confusing to be told this... [link] [comments]  |
| How can I differentiate myself if I keep getting rejected? Posted: 10 Dec 2017 02:42 PM PST I'm a CS student at a public university, and I've been getting rejected from everything this fall. Rejected from internships, club leadership positions, research opportunities, teaching assistant roles... There's always someone better, smarter, stronger, and I feel like I'm running a race I can never win. How can I differentiate myself in the internship application process if I keep getting rejected from everything? I guess I just need some advice on what to do, because I feel pretty hopeless at the moment. Other than maintaining my GPA and doing side projects, I'm not sure what else I can do to make myself stand out from all this competition. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 10 Dec 2017 04:50 PM PST Do you guys have any advice on what you did while preparing for interviews while working a full time job? How were you able to prepare and interview without making it too obvious at work. In terms of applying to target companies: Situation 1: divide target companies into batches Cons: if given an offer , one may lose out on other companies they may have been interested in since offer deadlines are usually short Situation 2: apply to all companies in parallel Cons: if no interviews lead to offers, then you lose the extra preparation time that might have been there if you didnt apply all together Thoughts? [link] [comments]  |
| Goldman Sachs rejected after Hirevue Posted: 10 Dec 2017 07:15 PM PST Hi! I finished my Hirevue with GS a week or so ago, and I haven't received any emails with updates, but I've checked the portal and my status says I've been rejected. I'm just wondering if other people have been rejected at this stage because I've basically never seen anyone say they where rejected at this stage, even when they've thought they did awful. (I don't doubt that I've been rejected. Just wondering where I went wrong (since I feel I did okay, they were basic behavioral questions) and if anyone's been in the same boat) [link] [comments]  |
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| Why are lots of people saying they didn't get a summer internship already? Posted: 10 Dec 2017 06:54 PM PST I have been reading lots of posts from people saying they will not get a internship for the 2018 school year over the summer. Isn't it extremely early to know that. I keep applying to internships on indeed, but is that a waste of time? Have companies already been filled up. I have applied to many small companies and large ones. I really would like to do the Amazon future engineer one since I'm a sophomore. I know I still have a few years to worry about an internship, but just wanted to know if companies are still hiring thanks! [link] [comments]  |
| I got PIP'd and I wish to turn it around. Having a hard time knowing who to trust. Posted: 10 Dec 2017 06:23 PM PST I made a post about this last week and I said that I was disappointed that I didn't get fired. But then I looked at the situation and said that if I can't turn this around then that speaks poorly about me as a person. I somewhat deserved the PIP and the guidelines for turning it around are laid out quite crystal clear for me. But I'm just having a hard time trusting my managers. When I got the meeting request for that I got PIP'd during, my manager said that there was nothing to be alarmed about. So I was a bit betrayed about that. And I'm having a hard time reaching out to somebody at the company who has been PIP'd before. I'm not sure how to go about finding somebody who has been PIP'd in the company before. Are PIPs really that malicious? Have they really given up on me? I just don't see my managers turning on me like that but whenever I'm proven wrong about this, it's far too late for me to do anything about it. I'm stuck between fighting it out and moving jobs again. I wanted to make it at least a year or two. I've only been here for 9 months. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 10 Dec 2017 05:29 PM PST I'm a senior and I switched to CS junior year in college. I got some interviews for internships last year, but I'd only been programming for 6 months then, so I was unqualified for all those positions. I am grateful because I got some developer roles at my school, but I'm still lacking that industry experience. This year, most of my classmates are applying for new grad roles, but I feel unqualified for new grad. I've basically been applying to internships (those that don't have a grad date stated). My plan was to get an internship over the summer and then start applying next August when the next cycle of new grad positions open. But I've been hearing that a lot of new grad and internship interviews are similar (I'm not sure if this is accurate or not). I feel like an idiot :(. I only applied to internships because I wanted some experience before starting a full time job. Now, a lot of new grad positions are done with their hiring cycle. I know there will be more in the Spring, but I'm kind of worried now. [link] [comments]  |
| Leaving recently joined company Posted: 10 Dec 2017 04:34 PM PST Hey, sorry if this question is not specifically CS-related enough but I thought I'd post is here anyway. So I had recently been looking for a new job while working at Company A, and had interviews with Companies B and C. I am interviewing through two different recruiting companies for each of the positions at B and C. The interview with Company C came first, and was for a position that was my top choice. However, the process for Company B resolved very quickly, with the offer coming one day following the interview, and them wanting a decision the day of the offer. I told the recruiter for Company B that I wanted some time to think, and that I was still undergoing interviews for other companies. The recruiter told me that Company B wanted an answer right away. He recommended that I take the offer, and if Company C gave me a better offer then to take it, with the understanding that it is unprofessional, and that doing so would likely sever any future ties with Company B. This wasn't ideal but I did as he recommended as the offer with Company B was still significantly better than my current job at Company A. I started with Company B this past week. Now, Company C has gotten back to me about doing a final interview early this upcoming week, after which a decision should be made shortly. I have not told them about Company B at all, so they still think I'm working at Company A. I have a few questions: Should I tell Company C about my situation? If so, how much should I reveal? If not, is there any chance of them finding out via my background check or some other method? I want to be honest and let them know the situation so that there are no nasty surprises later on should they find out, but I'm also worried they might view me as unprofessional -- e.g. If he is willing to do that to Company B, then he might do it to us (I would not since I am not talking to any other companies) -- and decide they don't want to hire me. Another option would be to first only tell the recruiter for Company C, and ask what they think? Although, I'm not sure if this recruiter will be as frank with me as the recruiter for Company B was. Let me know what you think, thanks. [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 10 Dec 2017 07:55 PM PST I am currently a junior in computer science at DePaul University. I am also in the 5-year master program so if I do decide to stay at DePaul after undergrad I will be admitted in the CS master program right away and I get to take some graduate classes as an undergrad too. Anyways, as I get closer to graduating I am realizing that I also really enjoy the business side of things, like managing and budgeting for projects and so on. I want to get advise on what sorts of jobs I could get to combine business and computer science, where I can still make use of my technical and programming knowledge. Also if I want to pursue this route should I minor in accounting or management, (this would add one about 1 quarter until I graduate maybe 2, but I am already graduating a year early). Or should I get a masters in something business related instead of computer science? Note: DePaul is a quarter school, and summer is counted but classes over summer are not included in tuition. [link] [comments]  |
| Best way to transition out of government? Posted: 10 Dec 2017 04:00 PM PST I currently work as a Dev for the USG with about 1+ year experience. Thankfully im working on what I think is relatively modern stuff. Im developing test equipment for "stuff". I end up working on everything from backend DBs, baremetal C code running on a modern ARM processor, and a C# front end to control it all. Unfortunately the pay sucks, and I want to move back closer to my SO who is in Boston. So far, in I've gotten 1 response, and it was a polite no. Im mostly looking for embedded type jobs because I lack real meaningful experience in web/I suck at designing front ends, and I love working at the processor level. Ideally I'd want a firmware type job; however I seem to be running into a few issues. 1) recruiters only seem to want to place me within the defense realm. 2) how the hell do I describe my work on a resume when I have to be circumspect about some of it because of security stuff. 3) it seems like most embedded jobs I want are looking for 3ish years experience. Got any advice? [link] [comments]  |
| Are side projects really necessary? Posted: 10 Dec 2017 03:30 AM PST I feel pretty drained from school alone, and just never have the motivation to do projects. Granted, I think I take a pretty heavy courseload (3 cs upper divs per quarter, not trying to graduate fast but I just want to take all the interesting courses) and I tutor for the some cs courses at school, but I feel there is just so much emphasis on doing meaningful side projects. Anyone out there that didn't do any cool side projects on their resume? I can't be the only one right? I enjoy reading engineering blogs, papers, etc. I definitely feel like I'm passionate about cs, but even so... Is it viable strat to expect to get offers from top companies without really great side projects? I was hoping that doing well in other metrics, (top 10 target school, 3.9 gpa, and tutoring) would be enough to get top offers. This top rated post seems to agree that they are overrated, but some people including recruiters/hiring managers definitely disagree in the comments. Then we have this other top rated post who claims that side projects are important because too many people are cheating in class. I don't really think cheating is that big of a problem at my school personally, and I sure as hell didn't bust my ass to get this 3.9 only to have someone claim it isn't worth shit. What do you guys think about the importance of side projects? [link] [comments]  |
| People that have to do on call rotations, what is your salary during on calls? Posted: 10 Dec 2017 07:45 PM PST Mostly interested to know if it's the same as your normal salary but you get paid 24/7, or is it generally a lot less when it's not work hours. This is assuming that you get paid even when you don't get paged/called. [link] [comments]  |
| I've had three bad bugs go into production since joining. I feel awful. How bad is this? Posted: 10 Dec 2017 07:44 PM PST This is half off-my-chest and half seeking advice/perspective. I started as an "SDE II" equivalent at a big N company half a year ago. Since then, I feel like I've been pretty well received - my first review was very positive, and folks seem to like me (they're all very nice). However, in the last months since my review, I had two pretty bad bugs go into production. In both cases, I made seemingly unrelated changes that caused side effects I didn't catch in testing. The first was in a feature I delivered that caused a unnecessary (but thankfully valid) advertisement notification to go out to tens of millions of users. In the second, my new feature broke after I fixed a problem I discovered in alpha and didn't do the full retest. I've now just realized that the hotfix for my last bug had another mistake in it, and right now I feel terrible. It was caused almost the same way as my last one - I did one small refactor for style after full testing and code review, and I overlooked a single character that totally changed the logic. My team doesn't know about this yet, and I'm afraid they'll be running out of patience when I tell them. I don't know what to expect - I think it's pretty bad, especially since it's like the same mistake twice, and the SDE-II-not-junior-dev thing. In both cases, I got cocky and didnt fully retest after making tiny changes. How badly will this reflect on me? [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 10 Dec 2017 07:42 PM PST Hey guys just took the hackerrank for Dropbox and it was called "folders and cows". I could only get 5/6 test cases but I left super detailed comments. But for the life of me I couldn't figure out what the last test case could be. Does anyone have any experience with Dropbox? Do they just deny if it's not perfect? Am I stressing over nothing? Will Carson Wentz play again this season? [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 10 Dec 2017 03:54 PM PST I wondering about those of you who have jobs that don't actually require much DSA knowledge. Do you have to take time out and study again every time you go looking for a new job or do most of you just remember it, even when you aren't using much of that knowledge in your everyday job. [link] [comments]  |
| How to leverage your alumni network? Posted: 10 Dec 2017 07:37 PM PST I've applied to a ton of places (~80) for summer internships in the past few months and I've heard a ton of people recommend getting referrals from alumni working in companies they're interested in. How do you approach people you don't know for referrals? I've gotten in contact with alumni, but I feel uncomfortable asking/not sure how. [link] [comments]  |
| Is it time to start looking for my second job? Posted: 10 Dec 2017 07:28 PM PST Background: I have been working as a software engineer out of college for almost a year now. While the pay is relatively good and work life balance is good, I just don't see myself growing in the future too much with the same company. My boss doesn't really seem to care about my career growth and I seem to be brushed off when I express my interests ( i.e. officially in data engineering so I want to be doing data engineering work and potentially working on teams doing some kind of ML and not front end work as I have been doing for a while now) . Me and other junior engineers are essentially excluded from standups that the team has so none of us actually know what the scope of the project is or how our work even impacts the product/ etc. Should I start looking seriously at new opportunities? [link] [comments]  |
| Posted: 10 Dec 2017 01:00 PM PST Hi guys, I know that this sub contains mostly US,West region. I wonder if anyone know where to look for entry level software job for Asia region like Singapore, JPN, and Hongkong. I'm not sure LinkedIn or Glassdoor is used prevalently there. [link] [comments]  |
| How to do Keyword Searches like "University Recruiter @ X" through LinkedIn Mobile App? Posted: 10 Dec 2017 06:45 PM PST |
| Posted: 10 Dec 2017 06:34 PM PST Anyone know that compensation for Goldman Sachs full time tech analyst position in Dallas? Trying to figure out whether it's worth it to move forward in the process. [link] [comments]  |
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