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    DEAR PROFESSIONAL COMPUTER TOUCHERS -- FRIDAY RANT THREAD FOR April 26, 2019 CS Career Questions


    DEAR PROFESSIONAL COMPUTER TOUCHERS -- FRIDAY RANT THREAD FOR April 26, 2019

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 12:07 AM PDT

    AND NOW FOR SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.

    THE BUILDS I LOVE, THE SCRIPTS I DROP, TO BE PART OF, THE APP, CAN'T STOP

    THIS IS THE RANT THREAD. IT IS FOR RANTS.

    CAPS LOCK ON, DOWNVOTES OFF, FEEL FREE TO BREAK RULE 2 IF SOMEONE LIKES SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T BUT IF YOU POST SOME RACIST/HOMOPHOBIC/SEXIST BULLSHIT IT'LL BE GONE FASTER THAN A NEW MESSAGING APP AT GOOGLE.

    (RANTING BEGINS AT MIDNIGHT EVERY FRIDAY, BEST COAST TIME. PREVIOUS FRIDAY RANT THREADS CAN BE FOUND HERE.)

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    Daily Chat Thread - April 26, 2019

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 12:07 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    Why is tech culture so culty?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 09:01 AM PDT

    I've been in several different industries before becoming a developer and this is industry seems so fake. Everyone is all about the "passion" and living and breathing their product. 95% of interviews I've had it seems like they think they're solving world hunger when really they're some basic app that is doing the same thing 1000 other apps do. It's also extremely elitist everyone wants a google level engineer at a data entry salary. When did it become wrong to want a job to work? I'm tired of going through interviews pretending to be passionate or excited about their product. I just want a job where I won't be miserable, work on something that doesn't suck and work with people who are down to earth.

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    Can I Get a Job/Internship in Software Development?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 05:59 PM PDT

    I'm currently in high school, and I'm located in what some consider Silicon Valley, depending on how you draw the borders. By no means am I some child computer science prodigy; rather, I have just developed a strong passion for software development and I invest a lot of time into pursuing this passion. I'm on the hunt for a software development position over the summer, as those who read titles are aware. Neither of my parents are involved in programming and I don't know anyone in this industry, so I really don't have much of a feel for it at all. Here's my slightly redacted resume. Do I have a chance at getting any posted jobs, or internships catered towards college students? Should I be applying for jobs I see posted, or just emailing companies and seeing if they could use me, or both? Thanks for the help.

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    Start low if I want to get into AWS?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 08:03 AM PDT

    New grad, working at start-up. Only making 22/hr in NYC,living in NJ. I work about 50-55 hrs/week.

    I have 130k debt, that i want to pay off ASAP.

    Main reason im staying is bc my major is in a field i dislike(MechE), and this comp is a software company, which is a field id like to go into.

    My goal is to get AWS certified and start looking from there. This company can give me some experience in AWS, but the pay is so low.

    Should i stay, gain more experience while I get certified and work with the low income? Or should i start looking for something else?

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    Does having a web app with good traffic help when applying for jobs(No Degree or "Experience")?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 07:05 PM PDT

    Hey all,

    I have built a web app that gets a good amount of traffic. I built it using Firebase, Vue, and Node.

    I spent about six months on it so far and I am wondering if I should stop finish it up and keep building a portfolio or push this project to the max. My goal is to get hired for a front end developer position.

    Note: as the title stated - I have a sales background and no degree.

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    How much easier does having junior software engineering experience make finding a job.

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 07:36 AM PDT

    Context: made career switch from bio to cs about a year ago, just landed a junior software engineer position but only on contract for about 3 months. Will this make finding and internship or another position a lot easier afterwards? I ask because I sent out like 300 applications but only got 2 responses. Have degree in neurobio and will likely be starting online masters in cs in fall

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    Should I live in one state and work in another?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 11:41 AM PDT

    I've been offered a really good position in California a great company. It seems to be the perfect job. However, if we completely relocate, that means my husband, who is up for a promotion at work, would also have to start over. He would really rather stay put.

    Is there way to realistically live in one state and work in another? Can you work there during the week and come home on the weekend? I've never been in this position before and don't even know what to ask for?

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    Graduating with CS degree in 2 weeks, is the airforce civillian job a good route?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 06:31 AM PDT

    Hello,

    I am having a dilemma. I am about to graduate here soon and I have an offer from the local airforce base (about 2 hours away). 47k starting with 20% sign on bonus and a raise every year, if I work there for 4 years I'll be making 74k, they'll pay for my masters, has decent healthcare, decent PTO and I get a secret security clearance.

    Now I know this is way below market price, but I really wanna get a masters. My GPA in undergrad wasn't that great but I am confident in my ability to code and general CS fundamentals. I have about 3 years of software development experience since I have been working part time at internships all throughout college since I needed the money.

    I have been interviewing at other places but I haven't gotten any full time offers. One thing I do have is an internship offer(paid of course) for this summer that will turn into a full-time position at the end of this summer if everything goes well. This is at a pretty big financial processing software company.

    I am having a hard time deciding on what to do since I really don't know if I'll actually be coding in the airforce. I do really want a security clearance though because I'd like to work for a govt contractor in the future.

    My resume isn't that bad, I have a hefty amount of work experience and undergraduate research experience. My tech interviewing skills could use some work.

    My family wants me to take the airforce job since it's safe but idk I have a feeling that I'm locking myself in, the work might not be good and it won't give me any transferable skills.

    Any advice from someone who has had experience working as a computer scientist at an airforce base is nice. But I'll take any advice I can get. Thank you!

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    CS major, Junior. Interested in becoming a data scientist.

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 05:25 PM PDT

    I'm about to get my CS degree from Hunter College in Spring 2020. I was wondering what are some of the best elective courses to take for a career in data science? I can't take all of these courses I'm yet to satisfy all the general education requirements. And I'd also like a minor in MATH or STAT. These are some of the courses that I'm considering:

    4 CSCI electives from: Machine learning, AI, Deep Learning, Natural Language Processing, Database Management, Big Data Technologies

    2 - 3 MATH/STAT electives: Calc III (Vector calculus), Linear Algebra, Vector Analysis, Probability Theory, Bayesian Inference

    I satisfy the prereqs for all these courses except Linear Algebra, which has Calc III as pre/coreq.

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    How to transition to distributed systems from backend SWE?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 07:46 PM PDT

    As the title says, what can a backend dev do to transition to a distributed systems role?

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    Do I have a skewed sense of what real CS is actually like?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 09:02 AM PDT

    I feel really lost about what I should do with my career. Any helpful tips are highly appreciated.

    I'm currently in my second year out of four of my bachelor's degree in CS. Participated in hackathons, had an internship and a part-time job during the studies, so I've got like 6 months of experience. During the time in CS (both uni and work) I realised that I kinda disliked CS (both uni and work) and wouldn't want to spend my time working in the typical SWE job.

    a) I don't really like webdev/datastructures/algorithms/security/os/low level programming etc. all the important CS stuff which I know I should really like. I've never been that nerdy computer wiz who loves to play around with assembly languages and hack stuff and knows every algorithm by heart etc. and don't intend to be. Before coming to CS, I thought it was way more mathsy, but I guess I was wrong. I much more enjoy studying Computer Vision, ML (not just the mainstream deep learning), applied CS to other areas like physics, biology and something that reminds more of research and real science. I don't get to have a lot of physics/biology classes in my degree though, obviously.

    b) It feels as if the majority of the classes I take are either classes which I like but which I won't need in real life CS career anyways or things I could have taught myself outside of uni. At this point, I feel like I want to use CS as a tool in my career, not build my career around it if you know what I mean.

    c) I'm not a fan of the whole CS culture at the moment, makes me FOMO and I'm legit developing an imposter syndrome.

    My main observation is that unless you do Masters/PhD in CS, you'll end up in a casual SWE job. Seems as if 90% of the graduates (BSc) from my uni go to SWE/data science jobs.

    So my question is as follows: do you think it is possible (realistically) to do research CS that has nothing to do with compilers/datastructures/webdev/architecture in areas like biology/physics etc. in the industry, given that I complete my BSc/Master/PhD in CS and not in one of those fields? Do you actually have to get a PhD for that, cuz I'm honestly afraid of academia as much as I am afraid of the industry, but I heard that it's hard to get a job in R&D if you don't have a PhD. A very basic (yet not that realistic) example of a job that would interest me is creating an artificial bee that can carry out normal bee's functions. Or do you think CS doesn't work like that, I'm unlikely to get to design such things and it is better for me to just drop out and try to pursue a different BSc so that I get strong ground knowledge in another area like biology where I can later apply CS?

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    Debating which career to focus on?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 07:36 PM PDT

    I am currently majoring in Computer Science and minoring in Hospitality management. The main reason why I am minoring in Hospitality is because I am interested in both technology and business.

    I like coding. I think the stuff we learn is pretty cool. However, I can't imagine myself coding 6 hours a day for the rest of my life.

    I like creating new ideas and brainstorming them, but I do struggle with building them.

    What career opportunities do you think will be best for me if I want to focus more on the business side of tech companies?

    I think working at venture capital will be pretty cool. Also, my friend told me that I should be a tech consultant, but I have no idea what that job does.

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    How to quit job < 6 months in and still save face?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 07:30 PM PDT

    Little background for me: I've been working in the field for about 1y9mo, staying at my first job for almost a year and a half. I switched to a smaller company because of much increased pay and the opportunity to work on newer tech plus a more progressive culture, but soon after I started one of the leads left and another was pushed out shortly after because of a lot of tension between her and management. The only senior left is limited in his exposure to the entire stack (not so skilled in Java) but to compensate they have brought over people from other teams working on older products to attempt to assist but productivity has really ground to a halt; not only did we lose the two people who basically created the bulk of the new product by themselves, but we are now severely lacking in domain knowledge.

    I have been picking up as much as I can across the entire stack and it is really burning me out. When I first started it was a lot of fun but now I feel like we are never making any progress. Operations/sales is picking up more and more contracts for the new product since they are desperate for the new revenue, promising features that don't exist yet just to drive sales and pushing previous deadlines back to prioritize the highest paying customer.

    Everyone they interview they don't like. They want someone that fits the culture, but anyone they interview that has experience delivering large enterprise projects (with similar stacks) is usually rejected because of any rigid structure they might impose. Because of that we are having trouble finding any new candidates at all and the two vacant positions have still not been filled yet after almost two months.

    The stress and lack of confidence in the company is really starting to affect my health and personal relationships and I know I can't continue this way. But right now they are leaning on me a lot and I really enjoy the chance to work with other female devs (my last job had none).

    I am expecting an offer from a Big N company soon after a very promising interview which will obviously have a lot more TC and structure in place/resiliency to sudden changes in the business environment. I have only been working here for almost 6 months, so I am very nervous to put my two weeks in.

    What is the best way to go about quitting? I am really worried that they will be angry at me for "wasting time" on me and possibly fire me on the spot. I don't want to risk tarnishing my reputation or burning bridges (we all run in similar circles and will likely run into each other again eventually) but I also cannot turn down something that is a better fit for me mentally and financially. My manager also used to work at Big N and I am worried she might be angry enough to try to sabotage me/get me blacklisted elsewhere as her back is against the wall even more if I leave

    Thanks for your help. Any advice is appreciated

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    Fellow programmers in your 20s, what are your plans when you reach 40s?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 12:23 AM PDT

    Recently I started thinking about what would I be doing when I reach 40yo, since I won't have the same energy,drive and motivation to deal with the everyday programming tasks that I have now.. One logical choice is to take the managerial path, but I'm almost 10 years into my career and I've always preferred doing hardcore coding tasks, finding solutions and researching new things, and never liked the people management tasks that my managers were doing.

    So what are your thoughts on the future of your career, have you thought about non-programming alternatives/switch after a couple of yours into cs job?

    Also I'm not implying that people in their 40s cannot do a good job at programming, I just think that the requirements to keep on the best level increase with time.

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    Sad truth about online job postings

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 06:09 AM PDT

    Dear all, I am interviewing with a company that specializes in medical equipment and software. I passed the initial technical phone interview and now they want me to do a skype interview. However, before the video call, I was asked to fill out an online application especially created for me. Other applicants just applying might think that a position has opened up and its for everyone.

    But this experience made me think, how many online application are there exclusively created for such internal hiring? and why an applicant maybe getting rejection or no response even if he/she is a good fit.

    That's all.

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    On-Site programming exercises

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 07:08 PM PDT

    I recently received an offer to interview on-site at a company. They said that this would be a several hour coding project where they would observe as I built something. For people at companies who do this, what type of tasks did you ask your candidates to do? I'm very used to the Leetcode style of interviewing so this is a bit new for me. I'm guessing this might be something along the lines of creating a SPA.

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    What would you say is the average portion of CS graduates that become software developers/engineers? Is this a source of pay disparity among grads?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 06:48 PM PDT

    Just something I've been curious about. While software developers according to the BLS have a median annual pay of around 100-105K, other careers common for CS majors bring the overall average for graduates down. Here's an example of a pay scale survey posted on reddit that shows the median below that of developers.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/8qumfo/salaries_by_college_major_oc/

    This shows a breakdown by career track: https://appliedcomputing.wisconsin.edu/about-applied- computing/computer-science-salary/

    Web development, IT, etc. are all roles that seem to pay noticeably less. What percentage of CS students would you say end up in these roles, whether by choice or not?

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    How to get your employer to give more complex projects

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 09:46 AM PDT

    I'm only 20 years old with no degree, but I have been in the industry since I was 17. I started programming as a hobby when I was only 12, but it seems that my employer doesn't trust me to do complex projects because of my age. With 3 years of professional experience and an additional 5 years of personal experience, I know that I am capable of doing much more difficult and complex work than what I am currently doing (mostly just lower level dev work). Every time I bring it up and ask for more complex projects, the management seems receptive but never act. My code is quality and almost always passes QA with no issues. How can I get them to give me the opportunity to prove myself?

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    Comcast Engineer 1 Salary? (Greater Philly Area)

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 04:52 PM PDT

    Does anyone have some data about new hire salaries at Comcast?

    My offer is < $65k and I've seen salary's at the 90k level. I'm trying to see if I'm getting a bad offer.

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    TripAdvisor drug tests

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 07:20 PM PDT

    Anyone know if Tripadvisor drug tests for intern/co-op positions in MA?

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    Why are my 'simple requests' annoying developers?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 03:14 PM PDT

    I'm trying to understand how programmers see our "simple requests" more difficult than they seem to me? We have about 20 developers in our company

    Our marketing team with some "udemy/youtube programming experience" constantly finds things online that we ask programmers in our team to implement.

    Often we even write the code, or find the code and create a working "proof of concept" - is this still a headache to implement? Often - it just seems to be a block of code (such as google tag manager) however this block of code still needs to be put into the roadmap

    For example

    1. "can't we just install Google Tag Manager" - it's just a block of code in the <head> tag
    2. "can't we install this countdown pixel on one of our servers? it's just a block of php code" link
    3. "can't we just have read only access to the database? just certain tables? such as a category data, so we can count/sum/group-by categories - what about a staging database - can't we use that?"

    Here's what I learned so far

    1. there's a "roadmap" so the developers are already busy with existing work, this has been planned 3-6 months in advance - we can't just stop what we're doing and implement whatever sounds good at the time
    2. if the marketing team writes the code and hosts it somewhere, there is nobody there to support it if the person who wrote it leaves the company
    3. can't execute read only queries on the production database, what if a query takes too long, maybe the database has sensitive personal information - so no, you can't have access to staging

    Where to go from here?

    To the marketing team, everything sounds easy "just copy paste this script"

    What else do I need to know? When do things start getting complicated from a developer point of view?

    Are we suggesting an unprofessional solution?

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    Steps to move from Quality Assurance Analyst to (Jr?) Quality Assurance Automation Engineer?

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 08:26 AM PDT

    Hi,

    I an currently a Quality Assurance Analyst. I started as in intern in May 2017 with zero QA or any software dev cycle knowledge, and was offered a full time position in August 2017, and have been working at my company since I left full time school for the full time job. Im still taking classes online to get my BS in Computer Science and am (hopefully) going to graduate next summer.

    Skipping ahead to the big question: I want to become a Quality Assurance Automation Engineer. The majority of my job is revolved around manual QA work , but I do know how to automate tests with selenium via a keyword driven framework my previous boss (and our only Automation person) made for us before he quit. While I understand the basics of how the framework runs, I do not know the intricacies very well. I have programming knowledge with java and js, and a little bit in other languages (python, c++, php minimally) but have not used them in a work setting really only in school at the moment. HOWEVER, I was able to identify and understand a few bugs within the framework my boss wrote (I had to ask a lead developer for help to fix it correctly though) but that alone made me feel a little good. I also learned how to schedule a few of our automated tests in Jenkins so that it emailed us results for each scheduled run. My boss was supposed to show me the basics of JMeter and performance testing, but he never quite got around to it in a way that actually stuck with me.

    Now that what I DO know is up there, what other skills/ things should I learn in order to become more qualified to become a QA Automation Engineer? I am not looking for a lead position or any sort of leadership spot, but rather a jr position maybe or just a normal tiered QA Automation Engineer ? Am I in a good position to start applying at places already (I personally don't think so but am looking for others opinions).

    Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer some insight !

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    Potential employer expects me to do additional hours

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 01:50 PM PDT

    I currently work as Software Developer (UK). In my current role, I do my contracted hours and I go home. I can do additional hours but I will only get paid overtime if it's authorised by management.

    Now I've been offered a position to work as a Software Developer at another company using newer Tech Stack.

    However in the job offer letter from the HR Representative it states the following: "Typical hours of work is 40 hours a week which are flexible. However you are expected to work additional hours as required to successfully fulfil your responsibilities."

    He expects me to sign this offer letter and mail it to headquarters. I haven't signed it yet.

    Firstly regarding additional hours. Is this legal? Where is a line drawn?

    Secondly, say I'm working on a project and I'm working on a feature, does that mean I have to finish that feature right there and then on that day? In software development a feature for example could take 1 hour to 1 day or 1 week or 1 month to complete.

    Am I reading too much into this?

    Has anyone ever come across a contract/offer letter that states something like the above? If so what do you advise?

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    Tattoos in the workplace

    Posted: 26 Apr 2019 05:54 AM PDT

    So I know this all depends on the company you're working for and such, but thought I'd ask for opinions here.

    I currently work for a company with a casual dress code. I have a full sleeve of tattoos and I always just wore a nice t shirt, jeans, and boots. "Smart casual" let's say.

    I got a new job though, seems even more casual as I saw pictures of employees in shorts (my place didn't allow shorts).

    Now I'm getting older and want to be taken more seriously and want to make a good impression for the CTO and all the other higher ups.

    So I'm considering just buying a couple decent Oxford and linen button down shirts so that my tattoos won't be as exposed.

    Am I overthinking things or will looking more "presentable" aka just not showing all my tattoos, be beneficial? Nobody saw them during my interview, so I think I'd feel weird just walking in my first day with a t shirt with all my tattoos showing. Although they do say dress comfortably however you want.

    Anybody have experiences with this? I feel like even though tattoos are more accepted in the work place, people in managerial positions might still somewhat judge.

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