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    DEAR PROFESSIONAL COMPUTER TOUCHERS -- FRIDAY RANT THREAD FOR April 12, 2019 CS Career Questions


    DEAR PROFESSIONAL COMPUTER TOUCHERS -- FRIDAY RANT THREAD FOR April 12, 2019

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 12:07 AM PDT

    AND NOW FOR SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.

    THE BUILDS I LOVE, THE SCRIPTS I DROP, TO BE PART OF, THE APP, CAN'T STOP

    THIS IS THE RANT THREAD. IT IS FOR RANTS.

    CAPS LOCK ON, DOWNVOTES OFF, FEEL FREE TO BREAK RULE 2 IF SOMEONE LIKES SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T BUT IF YOU POST SOME RACIST/HOMOPHOBIC/SEXIST BULLSHIT IT'LL BE GONE FASTER THAN A NEW MESSAGING APP AT GOOGLE.

    (RANTING BEGINS AT MIDNIGHT EVERY FRIDAY, BEST COAST TIME. PREVIOUS FRIDAY RANT THREADS CAN BE FOUND HERE.)

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    Daily Chat Thread - April 12, 2019

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 12:07 AM PDT

    Please use this thread to chat, have casual discussions, and ask casual questions. Moderation will be light, but don't be a jerk.

    This thread is posted every day at midnight PST. Previous Daily Chat Threads can be found here.

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    My worst nightmare at work happened today...

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 08:46 AM PDT

    I was working from home, in a conference call and I thought I was muted.

    I wasn't muted.

    I slowly just want to sink and die now.

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    Boss let it slip that he "wished I worked faster"

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 06:13 AM PDT

    I'm a junior dev at a non-tech company (about 350 people) and my boss and I are the only two developers. I started in the beginning of the year and heard that "they'd been trying to get this role for a while and were glad to have me on board."

    I'm assigned occasional bug fixes but for 95% of the time I'm working on solo projects. My boss steps in when need be, but I'm given a fair degree of independence and can give input if I want a project to use a certain package, go in a certain direction, etc.

    I'm not a great developer, but I don't think I'm a horrible one either (well, it depends on the day). I started doing this nearly a year ago and while I like figuring things out for myself I'm getting more comfortable with asking my boss for help.

    Yesterday we did a screen sharing session where we reviewed something I was working on. For the most part he said he was pleased with how the project was turning out, but very late into the conversation he let it slip that he "wished I was completing tasks faster" so I could take on more responsibilities. I don't think he meant to say it right then and there.

    My mind immediately wandered to the phrase "working too slowly." I'm not sure if that's what he meant. Maybe he thinks I'm working at an adequate pace but could work faster. It's important to note that I'm not exactly disagreeing with him, in fact there are plenty of times where I wish I'd allocated more time into projects.

    At what point are junior developers, specifically those on small teams, expected to work faster? I'm not a wizard, and my boss knows that, but it's almost as if he wishes I was.

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    GO TO MEETUPS DUDE

    Posted: 11 Apr 2019 08:05 PM PDT

    Ok so im an enterprise java programmer and i wanted to learn some of the new kids/hipsters are doing nowdays and maybe try to get into the 'startup scene' so i went to a javascript meetup in my city, and my god, it was sad.

    The event was run by the local JS Bootcamp, and the entire thing consisted of a bunch of people doing show and tell with some javascript animations of bouncing balloons and other things they made. They were all, to a man/woman, unemployed, from the out-of-work ASP enterprise programmer who made a phone app for a hackathon, to a guy working as a medical technician who has been graduated from the bootcamp for over two YEARS. I checked his linkedin and he listed his header/title as 'Software Engineer' despite never having worked as one.

    I came to a JS meetup thinking that JS was used for startups and the vibe would be youthful, energetic, and with people talking about and possibly starting companies/projects. Instead I got the distinct impression that I was looking at a mass of people who had been rejected by the industry.

    I couldn't really help but feel sorry for these people as most were bootcamp graduates who were still working in their old jobs, despite having learned MERN/whatever and making some toy apps. This is the side of bootcamps you don't see. The untold masses of people who fell for the meme of LEARN JS IN 21 DAYS AND GET RICH. A bunch of sad, unemployed guys who forked over thousands of dollars to get on the self taught web dev hype train and ended up exactly in the same place as before(except now with less money).

    Maybe my area is just lacking in opportunities in software(which it kindof is), but I have a stinking suspicion that this is probably more representative of the average bootcamp experiences than a guy who went to a bootcamp and got hired at google for 200k a year. I looked through my whole city and TBH i can't identify a single successful tech startup, just a bunch of half-funded wanna-bes who have yet to turn a profit/IPO/get sold/whatever success is. I feel like the whole 'startup' hype is basically nonexistent outside of certain areas like SF and NYC.

    The bottom line is stop telling kids to go to bootcamp, you aren't going to become hirable in a few weeks and forget about startups if you're not in a major metropolitan area with an actual startup scene.

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    Taking up referral offers on Blind?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 04:11 PM PDT

    Are there any negatives to taking referral offers on Blind? I asked for a few referrals into FAANG companies seeing as it's pretty common on the app and received a few people who were willing to put me up to a recruiter. Messaged a few of them and sent my resume, Linkedin, and position title to which I'm applying to their (anonymized) emails.

    I know there's obviously some element of risk to this but I just assumed that humans aren't purely evil and that they wouldn't have anything to gain by, for example, letting my current employer know I'm trying to leave. Has this worked / not worked for anyone in the past?

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    Do companies ever BS you out of travel expenses?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 05:18 AM PDT

    For every interview I've attended, they've all provided travel expenses in getting there - from the small web dev agency to the international tech company.

    The interviews I line up through recruiters are a bit different though. One time with a recruiter, I asked if travel expenses were reimbursed and she was blatantly telling me that is an unusual question, that she had never been expensed for any interview herself and that she has never recruited a candidate with expenses paid for. Making it seem like I was being completely unreasonable on some high horse for that matter!

    I think that response is complete BS. I get some small shops may not be able to afford it but travel expenses are a completely normal thing - am I in the wrong here?

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    Struggling trying to get a job, need some advice.

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 04:16 PM PDT

    Hello, I recently got terminated from my job 3 months ago. I graduated college in 2015 with a BS in mechanical engineering from an avg. school with avg. grades and worked 3 years with patents. I didn't make a lot of money (avg. $30K annually, commission-based). This may sound like I'm lazy, but I believe that I'm a hard worker. I'd work 'til late at nights and on the weekends. However, my great weakness is not asking for help, and I've learned my lesson.

    I filed for bankruptcy two years ago due to debts I took out to help with the family's restaurant, which failed, and I was unable to pay back the debts due to my low income. Ever since then my credit has been improving (score in lower 600 now compared to 400 during bankruptcy), and my credit report doesn't have anything bad anymore besides the bankruptcy.

    For the past three months, I was making about $1,000 monthly playing online poker; I beat the game at about $5/hr. It's not a lot, but I get to eat. Currently I am living with my parents.

    Recently, I started learning Python. I created two projects thus far; they're both poker-related software that helps me analyze equity (simulation). The first project looks like this: https://i.imgur.com/NfTuMJV.png It's basically a program that helps me analyze which hands I should bet as value, bet as a bluff, call, check or fold. I've abandoned this project because the graphic slows down the program significantly.

    The second program ishelps me analyze equity between two ranges and allows me to narrow the ranges along the betting streets. https://i.imgur.com/U163wc8.png

    I've been using these programs to help me study the game, but their main intention is for me to apply my knowledge of Python and to have something to show for when I apply for a programming job.

    I plan to continue learning more about Python (and relevant technologies) and apply for programming jobs around the beginning of next year. This may sound like a joke to some of you, but I'd kill for a job with $45K annual salary + good health insurance.

    I really need advice on my situation. Would my termination, bankruptcy, lack of a CS degree and lack of programming experience hinder me from obtaining a job? Should I apply for a job now? If this doesn't work out for me, my last resort is to probably play poker professionally (which I don't want to). FYI I live in Las Vegas, NV, but I'm willing to move anywhere.

    Thank you for your time.

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    Recently started working at a big financial firm, they seem very laid back about working hours, should I be concerned about not working full 8 hours everyday?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 09:11 AM PDT

    Hello, this is my first job out of college, I'm working as a contractor right now in a good financial firm and I'm paid salary.

    I know salary positions are more laid back when it comes to working hours, and it seems like everyone comes and leaves whenever they want, officially we can work anytime as long as we work 8 hours a day or 40 hours a week, but it seems to me that no one follows that strictly.

    I usually come at 9 and leave at 5, but I also take a 45 mins lunch break, which I know I'm supposed to make up but I don't, usually around 5 most of the workers go home. Right now I'm barely being given any work, literally I would say I work max 1 hour of actual work a day, I will get a project by the end of this month though.

    My question is, is what I'm doing too risky? I do leave an hour or 30 mins early sometimes, and if I take a break I don't really make up the time. On the other hand I have been trying to ask for more work but haven't been given any, so I get pretty bored which is why sometimes I leave early.

    Please let me know what you guys think.

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    Is there a website like leetcode but more focused on code readability, maintainability and simplicity?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 06:18 PM PDT

    I know I can technically try to make my working code on leetcode smaller, but that website is more about performance, memory, and whiteboard questions. I want to focus on making more readable, maintainable and simple code. Leetcode doesn't really give me a situation where it tells me that I'll be working with a million objects and am forced to use Java Streams or other utilities often used in industry.

    I've been a Java developer for about 7 months now, but as I'm developing for my current project it just bothers me how ugly and big my code looks at times. We haven't been having much code reviews lately. I've been reading Clean Code time to time and have applied what it has told me in a practical fashion. I want to be able to practice how to reduce the lines of code I'm writing via lambdas or method references (for example). Or to better my decisions on naming convention (whether to name a few Strings as "sql", "sql2", "sql3", or "getCarByModelAndMake", "getCarByModelAndMakeSQL", etc.).

    So I imagine a website where the code is already laid out for you, but in its most ugly, big and inefficient form (in any language). And your objective is to replace that code with something that not only looks and reads good, but is as condensed and maintainable as possible. At the same time, you can view how others have approached the problem and vote on the most beautiful looking code. Is there any website like that?

    I know I can just pull up an IDE and start coding, but before I start doing that, has anyone found some sort of methodology or approach I should take to simplify code? You can already see that I write too much to get my point across. My code can sometimes be like these paragraphs or too verbose when I'm working with complex business rules, and I often won't notice until I'm deep into it.

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    Is it just me or is working for the government hard?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 03:48 PM PDT

    I recently joined (1 month) working for the gov in DC. I feel dumb. It takes me days to solve tickets. After I work, I take a small break before continuing working remotely at night. Sometimes I'm asked to work on weekends without pay. In my last weekend, I was tasked to complete several projects. I did them within two days (Saturday and Sunday). I was told by my lead that even though I successfully completed them, I was too slow and it was a waste to ask me to complete these tasks. I've already had to explain why one of my tickets was taking more than a week to complete. I feel I'm going to get fired any day now for poor performance.

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    I regularly see the notion that web based software engineering is easier, and less profitable, than other types of CS jobs. Is this true?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 07:29 PM PDT

    I come across posts, comments, or even conversations in real life, where people are saying that web based stuff is much easier (and doesn't pay as well) as other forms of software engineering. Is there any merit to this?

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    My company wants to bring me on full time, at under half the previous hourly pay and more than twice the hours

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 09:28 AM PDT

    https://www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/ay3ddv/got_surpriseoffered_a_parttime_contract_instead/This was me about a month ago. tl;dr I got offered a part-time (70hr/month) contract job in audio eng/software dev for a cool company, I asked for $50/hr and they said yes, with the assumption this hold until a full time position came along.

    Yesterday, I got told that they want to bring me on fulltime, something very exciting to hear as this was my hope all along! So far it's felt very startup-y (<5 employees, wework-like shared office floor, semi-vague tasks that can be accomplished however I see fit, no corporate-ness, lots of shared roles). I really like the people and the work so far, and I recently presented a research proposal to many of the upper level guys in the US that seems to be very impressive to the heads of the company. I'd say that over the past month, I've very much demonstrated my value as a competent junior-mid developer and excellent audio engineer, and I've got nothing but good feedback from all my work thus far.

    Keep in mind that they need someone fulltime asap to meet upcoming deadlines, and that while I have the option of remaining part-time contract, they will need to hire someone full-time regardless. That doesn't mean I won't still have work, but it's not really guarenteed past this point.

    Here's what I was told to expect for the offer.

    • $50,000 CAD + unspecified bonus system (tbd)
    • some amount of stock (specifics tbd)
    • very flexible vacation policy, no number, just don't abuse (amazing)
    • health/dental (nice, but in canada not as big of a deal)

    This seems wrong to me. I'm still very new to benefits and don't really understand the value of them tbh, but even so, assuming a 40/hr work week, my hourly wage will drop from $50/hr to $24/hr, so I'm being asked to work over twice as much for ~$100 more per week (+ benefits).

    Thoughts? How much do these kind of benefits really add up to? To me, the base pay seems totally wrong. For the average junior dev in Montreal, maybe that's ok, but I'm more than that and have a very experienced and useful audio engineering skillset that has been very necessary for this job thus far. I had hoped theyd offer in the ballpark of 75-80k, since that's what I feel I'm worth.

    TL;DR My company wants to pay me nearly the same to work over twice as many hours in exchange for 'benefits'.

    What should I do?

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    Entry-level AI research?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 05:11 AM PDT

    Around this time next year, I'll be wrapping up my thesis (Master's, not PhD) in Software Engineering. At that time, I will have had ~6 years of experience in Data Science / Machine Learning positions. I would say my background is similar to that of what is outlined on Google's AI Residency description. I plan on applying to this program, but think it's good practice to apply to multiple programs.

    It seems that the tradeoff for Google's program is that the salary is a bit lower, in exchange for having experienced mentors and industry experts. Are there similar programs with this sort of trade-off? I'm not interested in pursuing a PhD, which I think eliminates me from most of NVIDIA's positions.

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    Compete at Olympic Level for Climbing (IFSC, USA Climbing), How possible is it to land a job that would be flexible with an athlete?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 12:49 PM PDT

    Im currently competing at a world class level in Climbing (Rock Climbing to many) and am preparing for the olympics in 2020. I am also in college full time as a CS student, just about to wrap up my freshman year.

    I intend to continue my competitive Climbing till my late 20's (by year 2029) and it made me think about how I can increase my chance of trying to work part time while I compete.

    I have thought about landing at least 3 solid internships (1 at least at a Big N, fin tech,) to increase my chances of having a solid job out of college.

    My question is how difficult is it to land a part time job and make decent money (50-80k) part time out of college? After 2029 I intend to put climbing as a 2nd priority and focus on more on advancing my career. Also, how does my plan sound?

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    Want to leave first job out of college

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 03:55 PM PDT

    I have worked at a startup as a software engineer for 1 year right after graduating college and I want to leave the company. After working at the company, I realized that the startup life is not for me. I no longer feel passionate about the product and am lacking a healthy work/life balance. Because of this, I am interested in looking for a 9 - 5 position at a larger company. How difficult would it be for me to transition from a startup to a larger company?

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    I am 30 and a failed musician. I have been changing my career over a few years and need to take the plunge!

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 11:27 AM PDT

    I tried writing a long intro about my life, but I want people to actually read this and help me. I'll just try to give a little background:

    To sum it up, I've had some major health set backs in my life including 3 surgeries, one of them on my brain. Also, I majored in music because it is what paid for school (scholarships) and I personally was unable to add more to my plate. Some of my colleagues who were successful, went on to law school, medical school, computer science, etc. That just wasn't an option for me then because of the time, dedication, and energy that music took. But I couldn't just change my major because if I didn't study music I wouldn't get the scholarships. I just didn't have much going for me academically so school would have been way more expensive if I didn't study music. I didn't have a lot going for me academically because music took up so much time! It was a real catch-22. I thought it was better to get a degree than not get one.

    Then I graduated and all I knew (or so I thought) was music. I kept trying my career in music for a couple years. I relied on my parents for money pretty often (shameful and privileged, I know, sorry). Then all the the shit went down, and ultimately for my sanity I had to quit music. I had a chance to teach english abroad for a bit. I helped start an english school, in a small town, but eventually I came back to the states. I was insanely lonely and realized I needed to start working towards a legit career because I knew I wanted to be a father and support a family one day, and that wasn't going to be possible if I was in no where, Vietnam. I loved the kids and the food though!

    Fast forward to now, for the past few years I have had a pretty solid job with a small eCommerce company wherein a whole new world has opened up to me. I'm much healthier, I read books about business and self help. I'm just a completely different person than I was when I graduated college. I earn more in 3 months than I ever did in a year of music. I'm also married and have a wonderful wife that is making great progress in her career, so with dual income we live comfortably. She knows I am eager for change and would support me if I felt like quitting or going part time so I could focus on improving my skills, in fact she is encouraging me to do so.

    I've just hit a ceiling in my job now. I have a ton of resources but no direction in which way to go. I have loved being introduced to the world of eCommerce, niche markets, automation, crowdsourcing, digital nomads, marketing, blogging, web design, and SEO. There is just so many interesting ways to generate income today, and everything I'm interested in hinges on programming and computer science. Basically I want to find ways to improve the world of eCommerce with programming and coding. I'm good with computers, abstract ideas, and I have the resources to learn. What the hell do I do? HTML is something I started learning in middle school and high school because back then if you wanted to show off pictures and videos with your friends you had to build a web site. Outside of that I don't have much experience, but I'm used to spending hours and hours a day on something tedious (practicing music). And I'm used to rejection, so having to apply for a lot of jobs is not a new thing. Also, as I already sort of said, I don't have everything riding on it as I am always needed at my company even if only part time, and my wife has enough income for us to get by if I were to quit entirely.

    I've considered getting a second bachelors degree. Especially after getting engaged/married I'm just so fired up to make some changes, but the hardest part is making a plan of action.

    Is pounding through a bachelor's degree advisable? Coding bootcamp? I'm on a free code camp site (not sure if I am aloud to mention specific names here, sorry), but I definitely need something more personal and responsive to get the ball rolling.

    Thanks in advance for any advice. Sorry for any typos, I rewrote it a few times because I kept being too wordy, lol.

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    PhD, too old to be hired?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 08:09 AM PDT

    About to complete a PhD in Physics, I'll be turning 40 soon from a top state school. Several publications but nothing impressive enough to get me a professorship job. Coding experience in physics stimulations and leetcode. Want to do data engineering or ML. Can I still be hired at a FAANG or too old? Read a lot about age discrimination in this industry.

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    Struggling between 2 job offers. Hoping for some insight.

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 07:58 AM PDT

    Posting on a throwaway to hide my identity.

    I'm 6 years out of college, and I've been at the same (great) job since graduating.

    I recently received an offer from one of my best friends to join a start-up that just received VC funding. My friend was just named CTO of the company. I haven't been seeking a new job because I am happy at my current. So I didn't go through the typical interview process etc.

    Taking the new position seemed like a no-brainer to me, so I had an emotional meeting with my current boss letting him know the situation. My current employer is very dependent on me and they've treated me very well over the years, so I wanted to give them as much heads up as possible. By the next day, my current boss offered to increase my pay by 20% and offered me equity in the company. (I knew the equity was already coming, but I never knew the exact %).

    Here's the basic summary of the 2 offers:

    Offer #1 (from my current employer):

    - $113,000 salary w/ full benefits

    - 5% equity as a limited partner, which would include 5% of profit-sharing.

    - Full-stack developer (ASP.NET Core, SQL Server, jQuery, HTML, etc)

    Offer #2 (at start-up)

    - $110,000 salary w/ full benefits

    - 0.5% equity vested over 4 years. Company currently valued at 25 million, but 100 million after a few years isn't a stretch.

    - Back-end developer (Node.js, MongoDB)

    - Remote position (they've offered to pay for a co-working spot) with weekly commutes to the office, a 1.5 hour drive.

    Relocating for offer #2 is definitely an option for my family in the next couple of years. (Bigger city, more opportunities)

    Right now I see offer #1 as the more stable and secure option. Option #2 would be a bigger risk, but a greater opportunity for networking, etc. I would definitely appreciate any insights you guys have.

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    Still no internship offers in mid April. Junior standing and need some advice.

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 12:21 PM PDT

    It is now a very, very real possibility that I might go into my senior year without a SINGLE internship. Now, obviously I'm going to keep applying and not give up until June, but just how badly will my first job search end up if the very worst situation occurs and I get no call-backs and I'm stuck with no experience? I'm over the frustration now, and I just want to minimize the fallout.

    Should I apply for internships in my senior year? Would it be a good idea if I extended my graduation for an extra Fall quarter and graduated in Winter so that I could apply for internships next year, as well? Any advice would be appreciated, especially from people who ended up as no-internship upon graduation.

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    I'm not happy at the state I moved to for work and am desperate to find a job in my home state at the end of my lease

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 07:52 PM PDT

    Long story short: I just graduated, had no other offer except one out of my home state (despite many interviews at big companies I would've loved to work at). My lease ends in 12 months and I've made it a strict goal to move back home before I get too depressed.

    My plan of action:

    • Grind LeetCode and maybe pick up a copy of CTCI
    • Start applying 6 months out, and pray

    It just seems too simple, what else can I do? Please help.

    I came back to my home state for a mini-vacation this weekend and as soon as I landed I literally cried because I realized how much I miss home and how out of place I feel at my new state.

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    DevOps Engineers from Software Development backgrounds, what, why, and how did you do it?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 06:05 AM PDT

    Basically the title, what made you want to learn it and what did you use and how did you learn it? Would you suggest it, I'm thinking about following this career path.

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    Moving from front-end to back-end (or full stack)

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 07:33 PM PDT

    Short Bio: Arts B.A. who took CS night courses at community college for a few years after working a barely-above-minimum wage job for 7 years, saved enough for a .Net focused code school and got hired as a Junior Front End Developer at the first company that accepted me 2 years ago.

    My problem: I've been passed around from the creative dept to client services to marketing, making emails/landing pages here and there and configuring crm automations. At a recent meeting my title was referred to as Marketing Technology Analyst or something like that. I rarely get to write actual code but hit it out of the ballpark when I actually do and I get good reviews. However, I'm not part of the development team that produces the main app/majority of our product. I tried collaborating with the dev team but it's a tight knit group and they didn't seem interested. I think I'm ready to move on and have been refreshing my .net/angular skills to set my career back on track.

    I guess my question is: Has anyone else tried to move from a front end/crm based job to a back-end/.net job? Any advice on how to present yourself on your resume and your experience? I have gone to school for .net/c# and created a few projects albeit for fake/hypothetical companies, but at my current company I don't touch the back-end. Any advice would be helpful.

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    How do I give back to mentors?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 07:44 AM PDT

    I met a developer at a meet up and we've been in contact since. He's given me important advice that has really influenced how I work.

    How do you let mentors know that their guidance is appreciated and how can I add value back?

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    Canadian Software Engineers - do you get tons of contact from recruiter at linkedin?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 06:49 PM PDT

    I see people here keep saying that they get bombarded with requests from recruiters. But in my experience in Canada, I've not gotten any request yet since I changed option from "not looking" to "actively applying" a month ago. I've 15 years experience, with last few years in java/ spring, and also worked with one of the leading IT consulting company earlier.

    Is tech scene so different in Canada or it's just me?

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    Should I become a Java dev in a lateral move or continue being C#?

    Posted: 12 Apr 2019 06:23 PM PDT

    Hi!

    I've been in the industry about four years (plus about 1 year of college internships). I'm in an awkward spot and could use some advice.

    I was thrust into .NET post college without really applying for it. Started with a major company and that was just where they put me. I like C#. It's been good to me.

    I was desperate to get out of that job after three years for management reasons. I landed a job as a mid level engineer in C# at a smaller company.

    Today, I was brought in for an interview at another big company for a senior engineering role. It turns out they wanted more of a Java dev than a C# dev. I really loved the company and they loved me for everything except for my language choice.

    THE BIG QUESTION TLDR ETC. They are willing to put me in for a mid level java role so I can diversify my resume. They are willing to pay what I asked for comp for a senior role. This tells me I was low balling myself for senior pay. Anyway, would it be stupid to go to a company for a change in pay, but not title, to learn Java? It seems like a win all around, more money, better company on my resume, and new skills? It's silly to rush to being a senior when I've only professionally worked with one language, right?

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